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Old 12-15-2018, 05:51 PM
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So who on here agrees with me that this "duckbill" should not be included in the length of the model? Doug Wright is calling their newest model a 44, when in reality, the boat measures 40' when not including the 4' "duckbill" (according to the thread on here that I grabbed these pictures from). Doug Wright builds incredible performing boats, no doubt, but where is the length game that Fountain started in the '80s going to end? If they made the "duckbill" into a "waterslide" that was 10' long instead of 4' long, would they call this new model a 50'? At what point does a non structural/non running surface part of a boat not count when measuring the LOA? My 30' Skater started life with a 28" tunnel extension and 33" deck/sides overrun (making the boat measure 33' total), yet Skater and I have always called it a 30. It still has a 28" tunnel extension (which is actually a running surface at lower speeds) after being converted to outboards, but I don't call it a 32. I personally feel that all boats should be measured from the transom to the tips of the sponsons, period. And I am not in any way saying that this new DW model isn't going to be a great boat, I'm just stating my opinion that the length game so many manufacturer's play is being taken way too far now.
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Dale, I guess the LOA rating has to include everything LOL. I am with you on the actual running surface being the real deal. It makes the top speed of a boat have a bigger impact to the consumer with it being 44’ vs 40’.
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I understand your point but LOA does stand for Length Over All. IMO that would include anything from tip to tip.
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Also, I don't care what they call it. If that DW performs as expected with TWIN outboards it's a winner all day, every day.
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According to the USCG, if it’s molded in as part of the hull/deck/overall structure, it’s part of the boat length, as it pertains to laws for navigational aide and safety requirements. As such, typically the manufacturers follow suit with “naming convention”.

A bolt on pulpit, swim platform, hydraulic swim deck, or even a PWC platform (think cruiser for most of those items) does NOT count in overall boat length according to the USCG.
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Old 12-16-2018, 12:39 AM
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Maybe they should enter one in the Great Race against Total Monster - it's only a 46!
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The easiest way to determine the true length is to have a girl measure it, then have a guy measure it.

If the girl says its 30'...

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The guy says its 50'

Then you do the math and come to the conclusion that the boat is a true 40 footer.
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Old 12-16-2018, 01:32 AM
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Agreed. I know that Lavey Craft doesn't include the swim step or extension off the back in their length and model designations, they measure from the tip of the nose to where the transom ends at the waterline (running surface).
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For those explaining the coastguard LOA rules. Fine I get that . That's probably on the title and all, but that doesnt mean the manufacturer cant name the model whatever they want based in it's TRUE length.
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Eliminator is adding a 3 ft bustle to the newest 36 speedster they are building but still calling it a 36 speedster
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