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Matt Trulio 10-22-2019 07:29 AM

Troubled Broward Trailers ‘Evaluating Options’
 
Unfortunate for everyone involved, https://speedonthewater.com/in-the-n...uating-options.

ALL_IN! 10-22-2019 07:39 AM

I have read (over the years) several people on this forum being ripped off in some form or fashion by businesses or private parties. It really didn't affect me much, as I don't know those people personally. But Brannon is a buddy of mine, and this really pi$$es me off.
Brannon is a good dude and doesn't deserve this.
Terry

Sydwayz 10-22-2019 08:06 AM

Why is it always the business with the 'biggest mouth' behind it that always falls so hard in this industry?

Knot 4 Me 10-22-2019 08:21 AM

The Pantera of trailers. He was such a blow hard dissing other trailer manufactures. I feel bad for those caught up in this.

Marginmn 10-22-2019 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4711767)
Why is it always the business with the 'biggest mouth' behind it that always falls so hard in this industry?

Yea last February they are touting to Speed On the Water that "WE ARE IN GROWTH MODE!" Then literally just a few months later they are taking people's money and giving them nothing in return but the run-around. Effing Pieces of Chit!

NWfreerider 10-22-2019 09:37 AM

I swear I had just read on this site that Broward was now an official sponsor of OSO??

payuppsucker 10-22-2019 09:44 AM

I don't see how he could do anything other than remain solvent considering the prices he charged. I owned a trailer mfg business for 12 years so I know what it costs to build trailers. Broward's profit margin was at least 200% and probably closer to 300%.

F-2 Speedy 10-22-2019 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by NWfreerider (Post 4711786)
I swear I had just read on this site that Broward was now an official sponsor of OSO??

I doubt they will be renewing the membership

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...al-member.html

Sydwayz 10-22-2019 10:45 AM

I wonder if he's humping his Laser (Hull Scanning Technology)?
...which he bragged about so much.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e2c9bb0b4b.gif


He also owns a marine air conditioning business at the same address. I suspect that's the same 'boat' as well.
James D. Nall Company, Inc.

JRider 10-22-2019 12:17 PM

Wow, taking peoples $ when they knew they were in the red, $hitty to say the least

Wildman_grafix 10-22-2019 12:31 PM

A south Florida boat business that is shady,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Shocking :drink:

SB 10-22-2019 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4711767)
Why is it always the business with the 'biggest mouth' behind it that always falls so hard in this industry?

This goes for customers too. Not all 'loud mouths' but definitely a higher %.

It's a red flag for the 'I'm going to screw you' personality for sure.

thisistank 10-22-2019 01:41 PM

Hate to read or hear about this type of stuff. Not the only ones lately it seems.
Too bad, Broward built a VERY nice trailer. Wonder what the root of this is?

badmonkey 10-22-2019 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4711834)
Hate to read or hear about this type of stuff. Not the only ones lately it seems.
Too bad, Broward built a VERY nice trailer. Wonder what the root of this is?

:bong::lolhit:

offshoredrillin 10-22-2019 02:03 PM

he is still on fb shooting off his loud ass mouth...

SB 10-22-2019 02:26 PM

links

ALL_IN! 10-22-2019 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4711841)
he is still on fb shooting off his loud ass mouth...

Really? Post a link.

offshoredrillin 10-22-2019 03:33 PM

it was in passion for powerboats and powerboat swap shop

erik1976 10-22-2019 05:59 PM

I priced Manning, Myco and Broward for my new 39 Nortech. Broward and Myco were the same price, Manning $1000 less. Myco is a stones throw up the road from my house in Cape Coral so I went with Myco. Broward was still calling me asking be to switch to them and send a deposit a little over a month ago...

sonicss42 10-22-2019 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 4711841)
he is still on fb shooting off his loud ass mouth...

Probably partnered up with you’re ****ty ex-painter. Similar MO.

payuppsucker 10-23-2019 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by erik1976 (Post 4711871)
I priced Manning, Myco and Broward for my new 39 Nortech. Broward and Myco were the same price, Manning $1000 less. Myco is a stones throw up the road from my house in Cape Coral so I went with Myco. Broward was still calling me asking be to switch to them and send a deposit a little over a month ago...

Geez, talk about dodging a bullet.......
Nice call!

Tom A. 10-23-2019 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by erik1976 (Post 4711871)
I priced Manning, Myco and Broward for my new 39 Nortech. Broward and Myco were the same price, Manning $1000 less. Myco is a stones throw up the road from my house in Cape Coral so I went with Myco. Broward was still calling me asking be to switch to them and send a deposit a little over a month ago...

They did the same thing with me 6 months ago. I did the same thing as you, priced all three plus Evolution and went with Myco because of their rep and they were right around the corner from Innovation. After I put my deposit, Broward contacted me and said they would drop the price 2K. Told them they were too late, thank goodness! Love my Myco!!!!!!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c1a17e31bc.jpg

WARPARTY36 10-23-2019 12:27 PM

Question is were they trying to get cash to get out of a bind or were they intentionally trying to get deposits and run with the cash?

payuppsucker 10-23-2019 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by WARPARTY36 (Post 4711984)
Question is were they trying to get cash to get out of a bind or were they intentionally trying to get deposits and run with the cash?

I'd like to think it was to get out of a bind. But if they didn't fix what got them in a bind in the first place what's the use? I mean the guy had a plenty of business so there's obviously and underlying problem somewhere.

H20 Toie 10-23-2019 12:52 PM

My guess is that the problem is they were the same price as myco. They seemed to have a nice trailer but at even close to the same cost i would go with a MYCO first

Griff 10-23-2019 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by NWfreerider (Post 4711786)
I swear I had just read on this site that Broward was now an official sponsor of OSO??

That was in April 2018.
I told him that he must purchase a Commercial Membership if he wanted to post info about his company and he complied.

wananewboat 10-23-2019 02:46 PM

I consider myself very lucky, I have been shopping a trailer for a CC I'm having built and just got a quote from Jim on Oct. 2. I was in Hialeah looking at my boat on Oct. 7 and went by their address and it didn't look like an active shop. It looked like they built a nice trailer and Jim seemed professional on the phone, I hope it works out for the members involved.

SB 10-23-2019 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4711987)
I'd like to think it was to get out of a bind. But if they didn't fix what got them in a bind in the first place what's the use? I mean the guy had a plenty of business so there's obviously and underlying problem somewhere.

I guess.

But if you are in a bind and screw someone, why is it different than if you aren't in a bind and screw someone for the same amt ?

I took over a shop (just lease for land/building) from landlord that had someone that was in a bind and screwing people. Most customers felt bad for him even if taken for $$$$. If I called them for extra $$$$ because of extra issues I'd be told that since they got screwed from the previous guy/business they had no money even for the original quote and I was being an azzhole and every other expelective. Up here in northern New England rust runs rampant and even some 'simple' jobs turn ugly quick. If I asked about the 'thief' many would reply, 'Oh, that was sad. Hope he will be okay." Huh ? Jeez.

Guess sometimes it pays to be the 'victim' just like a lot of society has learned I guess. :(

tmmii 10-23-2019 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by WARPARTY36 (Post 4711984)
Question is were they trying to get cash to get out of a bind or were they intentionally trying to get deposits and run with the cash?

I don’t know any details other than here-say but it sounds like the typical marine industry business that starts out with the best intentions and not enough money behind them to cover what they get into. Before you know it, rob Peter to pay Paul, or get the next deposit to finish the last trailer.

Its sad that reading things like this just scream at me the opportunity that exists in the marine industry that I don’t want to touch with a ten foot pole.

payuppsucker 10-24-2019 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by tmmii (Post 4712047)


I don’t know any details other than here-say but it sounds like the typical marine industry business that starts out with the best intentions and not enough money behind them to cover what they get into. Before you know it, rob Peter to pay Paul, or get the next deposit to finish the last trailer.

Its sad that reading things like this just scream at me the opportunity that exists in the marine industry that I don’t want to touch with a ten foot pole.

I called MYCO about some parts yesterday and they couldn’t accommodate a simple request to weld an extra bracket onto an on the shelf part (which I totally understand) because they are so busy building trailers.

Makes me want to get back in the trailer business again.

NASCAT 10-24-2019 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by tmmii (Post 4712047)


I don’t know any details other than here-say but it sounds like the typical marine industry business that starts out with the best intentions and not enough money behind them to cover what they get into. Before you know it, rob Peter to pay Paul, or get the next deposit to finish the last trailer.

Its sad that reading things like this just scream at me the opportunity that exists in the marine industry that I don’t want to touch with a ten foot pole.

Well said , not to mention I have very similar feelings / tenancies!

ToMorrow44 10-24-2019 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4711787)
I don't see how he could do anything other than remain solvent considering the prices he charged. I owned a trailer mfg business for 12 years so I know what it costs to build trailers. Broward's profit margin was at least 200% and probably closer to 300%.

I was thinking the same thing, with a $18k deposits, there shouldn’t be a cash flow problem to buy materials and pay the bills...

ToMorrow44 10-24-2019 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4711817)
A south Florida boat business that is shady,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Shocking :drink:

Right!? Between Broward, Coastal Marine Export, Ritchey Rich...I don’t think I’m doing business with anyone in the marine field in south Florida...

tmmii 10-24-2019 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by ToMorrow44 (Post 4712209)

Right!? Between Broward, Coastal Marine Export, Ritchey Rich...I don’t think I’m doing business with anyone in the marine field in south Florida...

1 place in pompano I wouldn’t think twice about leaving a credit card on file. Other than that, very unlikely.

offshoredrillin 10-25-2019 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by ToMorrow44 (Post 4712209)

Right!? Between Broward, Coastal Marine Export, Ritchey Rich...I don’t think I’m doing business with anyone in the marine field in south Florida...

As much as I agree with this as Im one of the ones that got burned by Richy. there are still good shops, but they aren't on here shooting their mouths off. usually they are the ones too busy to be on here and quietly are taking care of business. that being said there are just as many bad customers as there are bad businesses... my advice is always be the client that you would to service. be direct and honest, you wont get every sale as a business and as a consumer you may not get what you want(price) but good shops charge what they do for a reason.

speicher lane 10-25-2019 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by ToMorrow44 (Post 4712208)

I was thinking the same thing, with a $18k deposits, there shouldn’t be a cash flow problem to buy materials and pay the bills...

I have no idea on this one but it wouldn't be the first business to have a sudden influx of success to go on a spending spree personal and business side (new SOTA equipment "to improve production", new truck or 3, new address, few toys at home) and then the bills start coming in hot and heavy

payuppsucker 10-25-2019 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4712235)
I have no idea on this one but it wouldn't be the first business to have a sudden influx of success to go on a spending spree personal and business side (new SOTA equipment "to improve production", new truck or 3, new address, few toys at home) and then the bills start coming in hot and heavy

Exactly.
Slow and steady wins the long race.
Spending money that you “think” is coming in the future is certain doom.

NASCAT 10-25-2019 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4712261)

Exactly.
Slow and steady wins the long race.
Spending money that you “think” is coming in the future is certain doom.

Agreed but sometimes one gets in a cash flow bind especially if they are having to give their regular customers (like boat manufacturers) payment terms of 60, 90 or even 120 days.
So your best steady eddy repeat customer that you cater to also has the leanest margin & best payment terms.
If you don't have a credit line or you've already tapped into it, what are your options?
1- drum up more business to create cash
2- take on an investor (easier said than done)

So as you pound the pavement ISO new business to keep the place afloat another buyer strings you out and so you see it can easily become a domino affect when you are already teetering on the edge

I'm not making excuses for anyone & I side w/ those that have gotten burned b/c I too have been burned in both the marine & housing industry.

I just don't think that when companies like Broward go belly up that it's blatant where the owner is knowingly taking deposits w/ a premeditated escape plan to take the $$ and run then kickback on the beach drinking a Corona..
I have noticed that some of the smartest people I work with who engineer and design ingenious parts are not the best business people even when it comes to managing their own money / benefits.

If Broward installed the best bilge pump on the market rated at 50gph to try to fend off the cashflow issue but their company is taking on 75gph of debt it's not going to matter & it's just a matter of time.


Hoping those caught in the middle get something out of it, whether it be an unfinished trailer, $$, equipment whatever.

Interceptor 10-25-2019 11:57 AM

Sometimes it's as simple as having to go to work everyday.

hblair 10-25-2019 12:35 PM

Call me crazy, but if you wait til you have the cash to buy new equipment it always works out. Financing equipment is a good way to hang yourself. I know it’s common but so are failing businesses.


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