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BONDO10 11-13-2019 06:20 AM

Outerlimits Race Boat
 
That boat looked great in Key West. I understand it was more of a "learning" week, given it was brand new. I did not see Sunday's races. Any issues, or were they just taking it easy on the maiden voyage? Beautiful boat, i'll certainly be following and cheering for OL.

gmhdfan 11-13-2019 06:34 AM


gmhdfan 11-13-2019 06:36 AM

It did look good. I have some video of it running but can’t download it from my phone?

Knot 4 Me 11-13-2019 07:16 AM

Boat looked and sounded great all 3 days. Ran all the laps. I call that a good race week for a new boat.

Mike A. 11-13-2019 07:34 AM

The boat looked awesome, and the crew deserves a ton of credit for not trying to mix it up with the other teams. We have seen too many others do the opposite only to end up upside down at turn one. Good job!

PigNaPoke 11-13-2019 08:07 AM

It was obvious the boat wasnt on pace with the lead boats, but I thought it was a good showing for a new team. Sounded strong and not 1 mechanical issue... like was stated above ran every lap.

The last day they let Crc mix it up and run with the supercat boats...

I am pretty sure they raced that mti in supercat 7 years ago or so...

Obviously it has bigger engines now, but he literally could play with every boat out there and just gap them (I understand power advantage), but the boat never once looked unsettled or flighty...

I'm assuming the supercat spec boats are trimmed for max rpm where he was just cruising?

It was amazing to me to watch the different attitudes at the same speed.

Mike A. 11-13-2019 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by PigNaPoke (Post 4714791)
It was obvious the boat wasnt on pace with the lead boats, but I thought it was a good showing for a new team. Sounded strong and not 1 mechanical issue... like was stated above ran every lap.

The last day they let Crc mix it up and run with the supercat boats...

I am pretty sure they raced that mti in supercat 7 years ago or so...

Obviously it has bigger engines now, but he literally could play with every boat out there and just gap them (I understand power advantage), but the boat never once looked unsettled or flighty...

I'm assuming the supercat spec boats are trimmed for max rpm where he was just cruising?

It was amazing to me to watch the different attitudes at the same speed.

Some of what you saw was Jeff Harris’s talent on display. He is one of the best, albeit underrated, racers of the modern era.

precisiondetails 11-13-2019 09:59 AM

I talked to several people that were at the races, and they all said that OL boat was so far behind it was embarrassing. No one goes RACING and takes it that easy or to look that bad.

with all that said- there was another brand new team with a driver that has never raced before. The Dependable Skater. That boat was FAST!! Ran up with the leaders for the 2 days it raced. Ya it had some issues but it proved it had speed!!

Rollin1405 11-13-2019 10:25 AM

For those who gave compliments, Thanks. We under propped on purpose all week to learn the boat, not sure how that's embarrassing. We had one hour in the boat before KW and didn't want to F-up. We didn't spin out, roll the boat or break. We finished every race. To us that was a success. It's the toughest class to step into in all offshore racing with all the big name veterans in it. For the nay sayers, if you think it was so embarrassing why don't you get one and join the class and see how you do on your first time out in KW. Everyone in our class was impressed with our performance. We passed a boat on wednesday and sunday thats been racing all season.

Rollin1405 11-13-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by BONDO10 (Post 4714769)
That boat looked great in Key West. I understand it was more of a "learning" week, given it was brand new. I did not see Sunday's races. Any issues, or were they just taking it easy on the maiden voyage? Beautiful boat, i'll certainly be following and cheering for OL.


Sunday was our best day, most comfortable day in the boat. Passed a boat on lap 3 and kept the pack in sights. We were gaining 2 seconds a lap on Myrick and JT every lap. We ended up 5th sunday and 5th over all.

Knot 4 Me 11-13-2019 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Rollin1405 (Post 4714813)
For those who gave compliments, Thanks. We under propped on purpose all week to learn the boat, not sure how that's embarrassing. We had one hour in the boat before KW and didn't want to F-up. We didn't spin out, roll the boat or break. We finished every race. To us that was a success. It's the toughest class to step into in all offshore racing with all the big name veterans in it. For the nay sayers, if you think it was so embarrassing why don't you get one and join the class and see how you do on your first time out in KW. Everyone in our class was impressed with our performance. We passed a boat on wednesday and sunday thats been racing all season.

Congrats on a successful week. It was clear what your intentions were out on the course. Nothing to be embarrassed about.

Rollin1405 11-13-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4714808)
I talked to several people that were at the races, and they all said that OL boat was so far behind it was embarrassing. No one goes RACING and takes it that easy or to look that bad.

with all that said- there was another brand new team with a driver that has never raced before. The Dependable Skater. That boat was FAST!! Ran up with the leaders for the 2 days it raced. Ya it had some issues but it proved it had speed!!


A 388 has been a dominate boat in that class for years and Mark Kowalski is no stranger to the class by no means. Better do some homework. This wasnt their first race.

BONDO10 11-13-2019 10:56 AM

Vinny,
The boat is absolutely beautiful ! You guys looked like a class act. Too bad there wasn't a trophy for best Hauler, that thing is beyond Bada$$. I spent more time checking it out friday night than any of the boats... Best of luck. Jeff

Unlimited jd 11-13-2019 10:58 AM

I would take anything he has to say with a grain of salt. Guy has something negative to say in nearly every outerlimits thread.

Nate5.0 11-13-2019 11:43 AM

Zero embarrassing about what you guys did, that is just an amateur comment.

Congrats to you guys and can wait for the 2020 season when you guys will be out there really mixing it up.

precisiondetails 11-13-2019 11:52 AM

Like I said- I wasn’t there, I was relaying what other people said.


precisiondetails 11-13-2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Rollin1405 (Post 4714818)
A 388 has been a dominate boat in that class for years and Mark Kowalski is no stranger to the class by no means. Better do some homework. This wasnt their first race.

your right Mark and that 388 are studs. But it was only their second race together. I meant they haven’t really raced together.

im not gonna go down this OSO keyboard war again.

time will tell won’t it.

precisiondetails 11-13-2019 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4714821)
I would take anything he has to say with a grain of salt. Guy has something negative to say in nearly every outerlimits thread.

ha... I’m way worse with MTIs

Vinny was catching PBC... probably why Johnny T wants the Skater back.

BTW- I’m a big OL V bottom fan!!

jbraun2828 11-13-2019 12:04 PM

The OL really wasn’t too far behind on Sunday. It looked much better than on Friday, I wasn’t there weds. I’ve been driving fasts boats for quite a while, but every time I see these super cats race I respect the chit out of them. They are on it from start to finish and to jump straight into that class takes big balls. Also, that hauler is amazing

Matt Trulio 11-13-2019 12:52 PM

For a rookie Supercat-class team, finishing fourth overall—in a new boat with borrowed power—in offshore racing's most competitive segment (my opinion) out of eight boats isn't a poor performance. Actually, it's a good one. The team has much to be proud of.

There was nothing embarrassing about SV Racing's showing in Key West. Nothing.

And I wouldn't slam MTI too hard, Precision, as MTIs took first place in two out of the three races there last week.

Dependable looks to be a rocket and Mark Kowalski is one hell of a throttleman, but the team had one DNS and two DNFs in three races. Running up front for a bit is impressive and cool, but so is finishing a race. But I give that new Dependable Marine team the same credit I give the SV Racing team. They worked their butts off to compete.

Even the most casual fans of the sport know the track record of the Skater 388 on the racecourse. But that does not mean everything else sucks. That's just silly.

Final standings from the Race World Offshore website, https://raceworldoffshore.com/results/.

Sydwayz 11-13-2019 12:57 PM

"To finish first, first you must finish.”

precisiondetails 11-13-2019 01:30 PM

Thanks Matt, see we fans need more detailed reporting on each boat, so some of us don’t get opinion info. LOL

and just for the record- I never think what Vinny or any of these guys do is embarrassing, obviously that word went a little far with everyone and stuck. But you can have embarrassing races and performances it’s all part of the sport of competition, that I hope we all can agree on. I have big respect for the guys that do it. And the embarrassing word was taken out of context I feel in the grand scheme of things.

you have to remember that most people watching just see a boat far behind and don’t know about maybe why that is like the Team’s agenda.

Just wanted to Clarify my comments. I know it can be taken wrong in writing. Trust me if it was in person I’d get the point across better.

with that said- I think it’s great there is another team in the class PERIOD.

Boatlesss 11-13-2019 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mike A. (Post 4714802)
Some of what you saw was Jeff Harris’s talent on display. He is one of the best, albeit underrated, racers of the modern era.

its easy to look good when you have 1750 merc's and everyone else has 800ish naturally aspirated motors isnt in. not taking away from jeff but this wasnt about talent as much as it was $$$$$$

AZMIDLYF 11-13-2019 03:06 PM

Mr. Curtis seemed to be pretty impressed about how this hull ran in its initial water test. Congrats on its first taste of competition and I look forward to seeing it stretch its legs in the future.

​​​​​​https://speedonthewater.com/in-the-n...4m1LRyrql9_xZw

klaatutooyou 11-13-2019 03:10 PM

They did their debut perfectly.

Remember the red and black Skater V hull ,s maiden run ?
after some tweaking it beame UNSTOPPABLE .

I hope youre team that success

If you ,and DEPENDABLE run OPA ( a tech race organization } you will be the ones to watch IMO.
Nice first race

Bostonirish 11-13-2019 03:27 PM

They did awesome . Congrats to Vinny and Simon and there entire crew and there families. All great people . Perfect for the sport. Can’t wait to watch them grow as a team

242LS 11-13-2019 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Rollin1405 (Post 4714813)
For those who gave compliments, Thanks. We under propped on purpose all week to learn the boat, not sure how that's embarrassing. We had one hour in the boat before KW and didn't want to F-up. We didn't spin out, roll the boat or break. We finished every race. To us that was a success. It's the toughest class to step into in all offshore racing with all the big name veterans in it. For the nay sayers, if you think it was so embarrassing why don't you get one and join the class and see how you do on your first time out in KW. Everyone in our class was impressed with our performance. We passed a boat on wednesday and sunday thats been racing all season.

Beautiful boat! I saw her at the OL factory when my friend Marc was grinding away - he had a huge smile on his face working on that boat!

Totally understand. When my son and I raced in our first OPA race (Class 6) in 2015, we finished the Warlock 3 days earlier and had about 1 hour of experience running the boat too. We stayed way on the outside so we wouldn't get in the way of any serious racers and finished the race. To our surprise, we beat a boat - came in 10th out of 11! :-)

I laughed when my son took his hand off the wheel to wave to the helicopter. We were having fun and learning. This was from that race:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e528ca01b7.jpg

flat rate 11-13-2019 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF (Post 4714871)
Mr. Curtis seemed to be pretty impressed about how this hull ran in its initial water test. Congrats on its first taste of competition and I look forward to seeing it stretch its legs in the future.

​​​​​​https://speedonthewater.com/in-the-n...4m1LRyrql9_xZw

didn’t Steve Curtis basically design this boat for Qatar originally ?

shaun harrington 11-13-2019 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4714854)
Thanks Matt, see we fans need more detailed reporting on each boat, so some of us don’t get opinion info. LOL

and just for the record- I never think what Vinny or any of these guys do is embarrassing, obviously that word went a little far with everyone and stuck. But you can have embarrassing races and performances it’s all part of the sport of competition, that I hope we all can agree on. I have big respect for the guys that do it. And the embarrassing word was taken out of context I feel in the grand scheme of things.

you have to remember that most people watching just see a boat far behind and don’t know about maybe why that is like the Team’s agenda.

Just wanted to Clarify my comments. I know it can be taken wrong in writing. Trust me if it was in person I’d get the point across better.

with that said- I think it’s great there is another team in the class PERIOD.

maybe you should have thought about this before you posted what you originally did! Engage brain before starting mouth!!!!

Griff 11-13-2019 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by gmhdfan (Post 4714774)
It did look good. I have some video of it running but can’t download it from my phone?

Video needs to be uploaded to youtube or similar, then posted as a link

Matt Trulio 11-13-2019 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Mike A. (Post 4714802)
Some of what you saw was Jeff Harris’s talent on display. He is one of the best, albeit underrated, racers of the modern era.

Underrated and a true gentleman.

willknotsign 11-13-2019 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rollin1405 (Post 4714813)
For those who gave compliments, Thanks. We under propped on purpose all week to learn the boat, not sure how that's embarrassing. We had one hour in the boat before KW and didn't want to F-up. We didn't spin out, roll the boat or break. We finished every race. To us that was a success. It's the toughest class to step into in all offshore racing with all the big name veterans in it. For the nay sayers, if you think it was so embarrassing why don't you get one and join the class and see how you do on your first time out in KW. Everyone in our class was impressed with our performance. We passed a boat on wednesday and sunday thats been racing all season.

You passed the gray MTI with ease on Wednesday. It was obvious you were familiarizing yourself with the boat. Since you weren't in the points race that seemed like a good plan. I am looking forward to watching both new teams develop next year.

precisiondetails 11-13-2019 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by shaun harrington (Post 4714889)

maybe you should have thought about this before you posted what you originally did! Engage brain before starting mouth!!!!

and clown comments like this are normally what get me to fire back. But maybe read before your keyboard starts.
read what it says not what you think you want it to say like everyone else. Clearly you show why I need to spell it out on here!!

AZMIDLYF 11-13-2019 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 4714887)

didn’t Steve Curtis basically design this boat for Qatar originally ?

Rollin1405 might be able to answer this better than me.

gmhdfan 11-13-2019 09:05 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b580dafca.jpeg

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4714891)
Video needs to be uploaded to youtube or similar, then posted as a link




AZMIDLYF 11-13-2019 09:09 PM

What engine builder are you using Rollin1405?

SC288 11-13-2019 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF (Post 4714902)
What engine builder are you using Rollin1405?

If I followed the story correctly they will be running Factory Billet Power in 2020 but MCON loaned them some engines for Key West. I applaud them for building a new boat for the Class, we really enjoyed having them in Michigan City this year. Vinnie's setup was top notch, including the old and new Semis!

AZMIDLYF 11-13-2019 10:48 PM

Yeah, I just read an article that said they had Factory Billet power.

Quinlan 11-14-2019 05:48 AM

Lets see the Hauler please!. For us pinions that couldn't make it.:ernaehrung004:

Wildman_grafix 11-14-2019 07:57 AM

Not the best but they were bad ass.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e3a083894.jpeg


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