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Smarty 01-20-2020 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Donzi Dude (Post 4722456)
those adds are from 2013 - 2016

The 38' with 750'S and X drives with Herring props is still available, and looks good, the other two are sold. …


TPro587 01-21-2020 07:09 AM

Drock, so glad to hear you're getting back in the game. Maybe we'll see you at Boyne Thunder again. Of course, I love the idea of a 37AT. I wish I could have bought your 28 a few years ago, beautiful boat! Best of luck on your search.

Drock78 01-21-2020 07:20 AM

I keep looking at this boat but I absolutely know nothing about scarabs. It is a ton of boat and serious hardware for the money.
https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...ft-o76940.html

IGetWet 01-21-2020 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722506)
I keep looking at this boat but I absolutely know nothing about scarabs. It is a ton of boat and serious hardware for the money.
https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...ft-o76940.html

That is a heck of a rig. Doubt you’d find another one like it

302Sport 01-21-2020 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722506)
I keep looking at this boat but I absolutely know nothing about scarabs. It is a ton of boat and serious hardware for the money.
https://www.offshoreonly.com/classif...ft-o76940.html

I think if you're considering a Scarab, you're crazy to not try to find a 388 Slingshot with arnesons....

BTW, I hate to say it because this site was always full of knowledge, and alot of guys knew off market boats that could be bought, but all of the traffic has gone over to facebook. You have to deal with a lot of yahoo's, but I guarantee if you put up some posts looking for specific boats with the mfg's listed, you will get a ton of leads on unadvertsied stuff.

Best places on facebook are: Passion for powerboats, the original powerboat swap shop, HP powerboats for sale, and most manufacters have an ownes page that you can post wanted ads.

Nate5.0 01-21-2020 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by tmmii (Post 4722471)
The problem with that website and why I won’t even look for a boat on it. Still stuff from 2008.


The site will not reply to customers with ads and the passwords have to be some crazy set up of numbers, letters, and numerals. I forgot my password as it is nothing I use every day and the web site does not reply or let you reset it.

So the adds sit for years and years and years. Mine is still up there and I still get 1 or 2 calls a year on it.

Drock78 01-21-2020 08:47 AM

I don't know really anything about scarabs but I do know that I won't own a 388. Is the scarab similar in weight and rough water ride? IMO a 388 isn't comparable to the rough water ride of an AT.

payuppsucker 01-21-2020 11:02 AM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a8e105cd1.jpeg
This is Rossman's dads boat. 850s with IMCOs. Real nice boat.
$140k


https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...t-facts-4.html

payuppsucker 01-21-2020 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722514)
I don't know really anything about scarabs but I do know that I won't own a 388. Is the scarab similar in weight and rough water ride? IMO a 388 isn't comparable to the rough water ride of an AT.

I can tell you first hand you do not want a 388 for Great Lakes boating.

Rossman 01-21-2020 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4722526)

located in MI
call Dave for more info 616-396-501three

-Ross

302Sport 01-21-2020 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 4722553)
located in MI
call Dave for more info 616-396-501three

-Ross

If that boat is in the same condition that it left CT in, then it is def a 10/10 for its age.

cowisl 01-21-2020 03:42 PM

We are considering selling our 38' Powerplay. PM me for details.

seafordguy 01-21-2020 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Rossman (Post 4722553)
located in MI
call Dave for more info 616-396-501three

-Ross

i think you can lock this thread now. This boat looks awesome - under your budget, longer than you were looking for and has the right emblem on the side!!

payuppsucker 01-21-2020 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4722575)
i think you can lock this thread now. This boat looks awesome - under your budget, longer than you were looking for and has the right emblem on the side!!

That was my thinking........

Unlimited jd 01-21-2020 08:10 PM

That’s a hell of a deal compared to what was available in the fall. I was looking for boats closer to 100k so everything list 150 and less was on the radar. When frank owned it, it always got the best, and upgrades every winter.

apex svt 01-21-2020 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4722550)
I can tell you first hand you do not want a 388 for Great Lakes boating.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2e5979f1f.jpeg


undoubtably the tiger ride is far superior to the 388.

Drock78 01-21-2020 09:57 PM

I know this is going to piss in your cheerios guys, but Cig isn't the holy grail for everyone. While I do like them, they don't fit our boating style since we stay on our boat most weekends. The bare cabin is the downfall for us, especially with a 7 yr old daughter. I do know that Tiger as its local to me. Great boat and priced right for sure.

boatfreak 01-22-2020 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722591)
I know this is going to piss in your cheerios guys, but Cig isn't the holy grail for everyone.

I suppose you are going to tell us Santa isn't real either. :D

Quinlan 01-22-2020 06:15 AM

Cigs cabins are defiantly Not useable lol. Just throw all your chit on the floor and Hold On :riding:
If a nice cabin w access Is needed and speed is not an issue- that 40 yellow Baja Outlaw looks like a pretty decent deal. For a Baja :popcorn:

scarabman 01-22-2020 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722514)
I don't know really anything about scarabs but I do know that I won't own a 388. Is the scarab similar in weight and rough water ride? IMO a 388 isn't comparable to the rough water ride of an AT.

The 38 AVS has a much better ride in the rough than a 388

Nate5.0 01-22-2020 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722591)
I know this is going to piss in your cheerios guys, but Cig isn't the holy grail for everyone. While I do like them, they don't fit our boating style since we stay on our boat most weekends. The bare cabin is the downfall for us, especially with a 7 yr old daughter. I do know that Tiger as its local to me. Great boat and priced right for sure.

That sonic looks better now then. Very usuable space.

I am sure something can be worked out too so that the yellow in the cabin can be redone as it has been for sale for a bit and i have to imagine the old colors and still the yellow have a lot to do with it.


Nate5.0 01-22-2020 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4722604)
Cigs cabins are defiantly Not useable lol. Just throw all your chit on the floor and Hold On :riding:
If a nice cabin w access Is needed and speed is not an issue- that 40 yellow Baja Outlaw looks like a pretty decent deal. For a Baja :popcorn:

The one on page one? That is a Sonic

Wildman_grafix 01-22-2020 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4722604)
Cigs cabins are defiantly Not useable lol. Just throw all your chit on the floor and Hold On :riding:
If a nice cabin w access Is needed and speed is not an issue- that 40 yellow Baja Outlaw looks like a pretty decent deal. For a Baja :popcorn:

Not a Baja, its a Sonic. But yes the cabins are HUGE.


Ok,,, seems Nate took care of it.

hogie roll 01-22-2020 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4722403)
AJ's 38 PP would be one to get if he was ready to sell.

Which one is that? No life like it?

Anyone know how NTs ride relative to the other boats mentioned? I think they have a pad bottom right? They seem like a good deal and NTs have high build quality from what I’ve seen.

Drock78 01-22-2020 10:39 AM

AJ's is "Defyn Gravity". I'm curious about the Nortech ride also. It was mainly on my list due to nice full cabin, size, build quality and price range.

cowisl 01-22-2020 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722637)
AJ's is "Defyn Gravity". I'm curious about the Nortech ride also. It was mainly on my list due to nice full cabin, size, build quality and price range.

I can ask my friend Travis for you. He has had drive issues.

Sydwayz 01-22-2020 10:49 AM

Years back, the original owner of "OverActive" 37AT was interested in a step bigger from the AT. He went to the Nor-Tech factory, and they really treated him well. He had his boat in tow, and they stored it for him for a couple days, washed it, etc. He spent a day going over the plant, and then some time in the 39' NorTech V-bottom. He did not like the ride at all; no comparison to the 37AT he said.

Sprinks542 01-22-2020 10:59 AM

2007 38zx. 525’s. Full cabin. A/C. Sits on a 2018 custom built trailer. Also have Air dock lift available for it if wanted.

92nsx 01-22-2020 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722591)
we stay on our boat most weekends. The bare cabin is the downfall for us, especially with a 7 yr old daughter. I do know that Tiger as its local to me. Great boat and priced right for sure.

You want a usable cabin, have you looked at the Powerquest 380 Avenger? That is the main reason I bought mine was for the size of the cabin

frickstyle 01-22-2020 11:39 AM

There is a nice 380 Avenger that may be for sale in Ohio.... Good all around boat for you, touches 80, should check all the boxes....

Drock78 01-22-2020 12:03 PM

Appreciate the input fella's. Nothing against PQ but they are towards the bottom of my list. Wife doesn't care for the looks and you see 500 every weekend over here. They are built well but not the best rough water ride. They do have a sweet cabin and big cockpit.

302Sport 01-22-2020 12:17 PM

There’s a handful of 39 Quattro’s out there that have been for sale for awhile from $149k-169k. I’m sure they won’t be offended by real offers.

Drock78 01-22-2020 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4722655)
There’s a handful of 39 Quattro’s out there that have been for sale for awhile from $149k-169k. I’m sure they won’t be offended by real offers.

Pretty much everything I've read says that they run real loose but fast. Don't care for the loose part.

payuppsucker 01-22-2020 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722591)
I know this is going to piss in your cheerios guys, but Cig isn't the holy grail for everyone. While I do like them, they don't fit our boating style since we stay on our boat most weekends. The bare cabin is the downfall for us, especially with a 7 yr old daughter. I do know that Tiger as its local to me. Great boat and priced right for sure.

No piss in my Cheerios. It took me a few years to realize the significance of THE #1. You'll come around eventually.:D

302Sport 01-22-2020 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722659)
Pretty much everything I've read says that they run real loose but fast. Don't care for the loose part.

Thats because people who have ridden in them dont have boats that can go 95mph. Theyre used to their straight bottom 15,000lb Cigarettes that run 65mph. Ill take the ride in a staggered 39 Outerlimits VS an equal powered, side by side 37-39 boat at an equal speed any day of the week. Those people arent comparing apples to apples. Take a 38 TG that runs mid 80's and cruises at 60. The 39 OL with 525's runs 95mph and cruises at 70. Obviously water gets harder the faster you go, and you are ALWAYS going faster in the Outerlimits.

frickstyle 01-22-2020 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722659)
Pretty much everything I've read says that they run real loose but fast. Don't care for the loose part.

I would guess you need to ride in one to see what they are like. I've been asking and wondering the same, but I'm not going to make a decision on a boat from what I've read on internet forums. I think you should consider a 1999-2003 42 Legacy OL.


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 4722661)
Thats because people who have ridden in them dont have boats that can go 95mph. Theyre used to their straight bottom 15,000lb Cigarettes that run 65mph. Ill take the ride in a staggered 39 Outerlimits VS an equal powered, side by side 37-39 boat at an equal speed any day of the week. Those people arent comparing apples to apples. Take a 38 TG that runs mid 80's and cruises at 60. The 39 OL with 525's runs 95mph and cruises at 70. Obviously water gets harder the faster you go, and you are ALWAYS going faster in the Outerlimits.

302 - how does the 39 Unlimited or 42X stack up against 39/42 OL ?

Drock78 01-22-2020 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4722667)
I would guess you need to ride in one to see what they are like. I've been asking and wondering the same, but I'm not going to make a decision on a boat from what I've read on internet forums. I think you should consider a 1999-2003 42 Legacy OL.

I'd love one if I could find one in those years. As for the 39 OL, I personally know 3 people who have owned them and all the stories match. I've run the 41 SL to 100 multiple times and never felt loose or needed any tab.

302Sport 01-22-2020 03:41 PM

39 Unlimited and 42X ride more like the old 37/42 Outerlimits. The 39 Outerlimits and a 46 Outerlimits ride a little harder, but keep in mind with equal power the 46 Outerlimits will outrun a 42 Legacy. The more efficient a boat is, the harder it will ride. Thats always been the case. In bigger water you notice it less, but in like 1' light chop when you have it trimmed perfect, and its just loosened up running across it is when you can feel the difference the most. The Outerlimits just feels like alot more efficient bottom and you can tell its not displacing the water as much as a Cigarette.

302Sport 01-22-2020 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 4722668)
I'd love one if I could find one in those years. As for the 39 OL, I personally know 3 people who have owned them and all the stories match. I've run the 41 SL to 100 multiple times and never felt loose or needed any tab.

The 39 starts to get hairy over 100 but with stock 525's you're not there yet.

Unlimited jd 01-22-2020 04:12 PM

I haven’t been over 100 in one but mid 90’s you can run with 2 fingers on the wheel. 🤷🏼‍♂️


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