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Matt Trulio 02-20-2020 08:18 AM

Miami Boat Show Of Force
 
For several high-performance powerboat builders, the 2020 Miami International Boat Show was the best it’s been since the event changed locations five years ago, https://www.offshoreonly.com/article...-show-of-force.

From the OSO home page.

mikebrls 02-20-2020 11:45 AM

Nice , That the 1% where able to fill the show , Offshore boats are dead to the average working stiff these day's :(

Matt Trulio 02-20-2020 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4726150)
Nice , That the 1% where able to fill the show , Offshore boats are dead to the average working stiff these day's :(

I am going to politely disagree with your premise.

When were twin-engine offshore boats ever alive for "the average working stiff?" Leading up to the recession of 2008, we saw a lot average working stiffs using home equity lines to finance $200,000 to $400,000 offshore boats. That didn't end up too well.

For the record, I can't afford one, either. But I don't resent those who can or those who build them.

hogie roll 02-20-2020 12:58 PM

I think it’s funny that we choose to only discuss center consoles from former sport boat manufacturers. If we’re gonna have CCsonly then I don’t see why we shouldn’t also discuss hydrasports, SeaVees and Yellowfins.

Now that fountain and Cig CCs are just as fat and wide as the rest, I don’t see a distinction anymore.

Unlimited jd 02-20-2020 12:59 PM

10-12 years later the average working stiff is buying those boats on the used market. If they weren’t built new, they aren’t available used.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...423c1ebfb9.png
My current boat in the booth at the Miami boat show in 2004

Bostonirish 02-20-2020 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4726169)
I think it’s funny that we choose to only discuss center consoles from former sport boat manufacturers. If we’re gonna have CCsonly then I don’t see why we shouldn’t also discuss hydrasports, SeaVees and Yellowfins.

Now that fountain and Cig CCs are just as fat and wide as the rest, I don’t see a distinction anymore.

I agree . That 47 foot freeman cat CC is one bad ass fishing machine. If I was in the market ( and could afford it ) I’d much rather that than a cig CC or any other of the big v bottom cc’s

hogie roll 02-20-2020 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Bostonirish (Post 4726174)
I agree . That 47 foot freeman cat CC is one bad ass fishing machine. If I was in the market ( and could afford it ) I’d much rather that than a cig CC or any other of the big v bottom cc’s


Not my cup of tea. Too ugly with bow angle and high freeboard. Fast though.

Matt Trulio 02-20-2020 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4726170)
10-12 years later the average working stiff is buying those boats on the used market. If they weren’t built new, they aren’t available used.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...423c1ebfb9.png
My current boat in the booth at the Miami boat show in 2004

Precisely. Between 2008 and 2020, how many production-built (because custom go-fast V-bottoms and cats always have been and always will be out of reach for anyone who isn't well beyond the average Joe) V-bottom sportboats were actually built? Every dealer I know is on the prowl for such boats. The inventory simply doesn't exist.

Indy 02-20-2020 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 4726151)
I am going to politely disagree with your premise.

When were twin-engine offshore boats ever alive for "the average working stiff?" Leading up to the recession of 2008, we saw a lot average working stiffs using home equity lines to finance $200,000 to $400,000 offshore boats. That didn't end up too well.

Agree, but the average working stiff could get a Nordic 28, Pantera 28, Progression 28, et al for 60s and 70s all day long with reasonable power. That's gone today. $120 for a Nordic 28'? Really? Preposterous. The market is not what it used to be. One outing on Long Island Sound for me on a summer weekend just shows how few boats are on the water compared to a decade+ ago.

mikebrls 02-20-2020 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 4726151)
I am going to politely disagree with your premise.

When were twin-engine offshore boats ever alive for "the average working stiff?" Leading up to the recession of 2008, we saw a lot average working stiffs using home equity lines to finance $200,000 to $400,000 offshore boats. That didn't end up too well.

For the record, I can't afford one, either. But I don't resent those who can or those who build them.

I don't RESENT any of them < I could afford one if I wanted , I just can't justify the cost for as little as I would use one these day's , and for the record I bought a brand new 35 gofast for way under 200 k about 11 or 12 years ago now that same boat is mid 300 k :( thats what im talking about


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