If the predicted death tolls are anywhere close we may have further to fall IMHO. With that said it is widely reported that Warren Buffett has come off the sidelines and starting to put some cash to work.

Italy is full of crap on death toll numbers and we are doing the same . You die in a car accident they swab you and you test positive for Corona you get added to the Corona death toll.

Once the liberal media starts reporting the truth about the positive results of the drug combo things should start to recover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXlH...a0oNH4AJM2alL8



https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fd...BUFDXGUPGAtJ0Q

If its on the net it has to be true, and if it comes from media its false...... Got it

lol, keep drinking the coolaid

CBS admits to using footage from Italy in NYC coronavirus report

https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/cbs-ad...YpUwr8pTl6clok

Prof. Walter Ricciardi, scientific advisor to Italy's minister of health said, and I quote, "The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. ... On re-evaluation by the NIH," he says, "only 12% of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88% of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many two or three."


AllDodge, best to listen to some news anchor on CNN.
This Scientific advisor doesn`t know what he`s talking about either ..

My Ex lives over in Italy in the epicenter of the Outbreak, born and raised there.

Its Real when both of your healthy parents in their 60s and 70s are hiding from an unknown enemy while their friends are sick and dying all around them.

The average age of death is 79 but there is many younger that are sick and are overwhelming their Healthcare facilities.Now god forbid your Child or wife suffers an illness or injury requiring immediate life saving Healthcare.

Its not the deaths, its the Healthcare system imploding.

I have dear friends down here in Florida in the higher risk age group, some with health issues.

I have dear friends in Michigan that have parents that they Love and Care for that are approaching the high risk group for the virus.

Can we we say if you die you die , sorry for you I need to go boating.

So you do not believe the reports coming out of New York hospitals ?

I have 4 family members here in Michigan in the health care profession. As far a portraying this as some sort of hoax or dark state plot that couldn't be further from the truth according to those on the front lines.

My niece that runs a Meier pharmacy has literally nothing to dispense. They have received so many hydroxychloroquine scripts from every quack with a script pad that the governor had to limit dispensing to current lupus and rheumatoid arthritis users and threatened prosecution to those trying to skirt the system. One local news story covered a health care ''professional' that tried to procure 510 doses for family members.

I have 3 sisters which are nurses, and 7 friends which are health care providers, 4 nurses, 2 doctors and 1 pharmacist. None of them are talking about any of the net postings. They do talk about all the misinformation on the net

The issue with info coming from the net where anyone can voice their opinion and then the continued fake news statement from media should not be in the same comment. You want real info listen to all of it and hope your good enough to weight thru the misinformation. The misinformation is what is causing the run on drug stores. There is very little real info on these forums, but a whole lot of opinions.

Wait until someone you know dies. Than it gets real.

About Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019 This took place in October 19'

The next severe pandemic will not only cause great illness and loss of life but could also trigger major cascading economic and societal consequences that could contribute greatly to global impact and suffering. The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, vividly demonstrated a number of these important gaps in pandemic preparedness as well as some of the elements of the solutions between the public and private sectors that will be needed to fill them. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, World Economic Forum, and Bill & Melinda Gates


Anyone remember hearing about this ?? I sure as hell didn't..

Now Gates crowing that we need to shut everyone down??huh??








Dr Fuchi -March 26 “Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%)”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387


So why is he not saying this to the public on the tv?










A good number of ordinary people casing hospitals all over America posting video of literally nothing going on - on utube.



Business owner I know - His wife works in laboratory at one of the larger hospitals here -they cut her hours. -Wait what!?!!?



Not saying that the invisible germ isn't real , but as a rational thinking person , some things just are not adding up.......

I gave up believing the media some time back in the 80s,
a school bus was involved in a accident and it caught on fire,they were blaming GM for the fuel tank location,so the media recreated the accident and then they were caught and force to apologize because GM did there own test and slowed down the medias video, and you can clearly see a guy throwing gas on the truck as the car t boned the bus.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...12d6937697.jpg

A picture is worth a thousand words .

Whatever.

I lived through the real estate crash of 2008 in SW Florida .

Both Ex wife and I were real estate appraisers . Ex wife knocking out 40 a week on her own in the heyday.

My dad being a 50 year residential and commercial developer and contractor preached to us for a year that the market Cannot sustain .

When it crashed down here it was like a game of musical chairs. The next day there was one less chair and the value of your house for sale just went down another couple thousand.

I know everyone is going to say that was all because of easing lending and subprime loans, which it was.


The Stock Market is propped up by?

So what I am getting at is many people bought into our housing market when it crashed 30-40% and thought they got a steal.

Problem is it was 4-500% overvalued to begin with.

If my calculations are right which they are most likely not, 2.5 trillion in wealth Evaporated in the market the past couple weeks.

Where are all the dollars going to come back from to Prop the market back up?

There are Prudent retired people putting many things on hold because of their market losses ,retirement vacation homes,rvs ,yacht orders.

It could easily come down another 5000, remember where it was 3 years ago and that is your true base line, everything after that is just Fluff.




Best Quote on this thread
“Don’t Bet Money you cant afford to Lose”

If I owned large tracts of C-3 commercial real estate I would be chitting my pants right now. It was hanging on by a thread the last few years as it was.

Investment firms were buying up Chit like we just sold of my fathers because their cash would get a Solid 15-20 % return.

Tenants were hanging on by a thread here in Naples Florida in a prime location.

Dad and brothers blew out a 50 thousand sq foot mall on 28th st in gr Michigan they built back in the late 80s in 2002.

That has changed hands many times since than.

The many investment syndicates believed it was a steal and could not fail.

Retail is dead and storefront businesses is Iffy at best.

All elective surgery and non critical office visits here have been canceled. Take out all the joint replacements, belly bands, boob jobs, and such along with the unnecessary tests and visits that are scheduled for the placebo effect or to just plain pad the pockets of the healthy care system and it has a major impact.

https://www.businessinsider.com/econ...-nurses-2020-3

https://www.katc.com/news/local-news...ting-next-week


So , I am supposed to believe that the invisible boogie man is here with a vengeance , but here in Lafayette, they closing down testing to every other day to protect healthcare workers?? and , and , that for "what may be" coming in the weeks ahead...GTFOH!

SHELTER IN PLACE they yell on the news ,online ...



Our small Body Shop of 8 will be toast soon.

I'd say this is spot on^^^^^^ Warren Buffet is such a simple old guy (albeit 75+ billion strong).....He said this a few years back and it rings true every time something fails apart:

A nugget of wisdom that Warren Buffett has passed along more than once to Berkshire Hathaway investors is this: “You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out. ... Buffett used the line a year ago, for example, in reference to the follies of large financial institutions exposed by falling home prices.

Or a video............from a hurricane hype moment:

These huge Fluctuations in the market are a perfect time to make large gains .

Never a better time to play shorts

Go for it.

I personally know someone who thought they could beat the market.

Over 10 years he lost 3 million plus lost his paid for home .

After my 50 year stock market seasoned father lost over a million in the stock market in 1 week back in the early 2000s my Mother called it Gambling.

Thats is when it Sunk in that that is all it is.

He had made 100 of thousands in the market back in the day when the Market had substance.

Substance?



The quote on here that many of the best stock
Analyst have never beat the 500 In a long term investment speaks a lot .


Thee most education enlightenment I learned in life was living with my world traveling Italian girlfriend

99% of Americans have no idea what is happening in the rest of the world much less outside their immediate area.

I posted this response to a thread about big money boats a few months ago when the economy was overheated and got lectured about the responsible use of credit. Wonder what they are thinking now--LOL

If you can't afford to "write a check" you have no business buying toys that have no chance of holding value in a down market.

To quote Buffett: “Only when the tide goes out, you discover who’s been swimming naked.”

Go fasts could be one of the best investments. Why are 2005+ Boats demanding so much 14 years later?

This world is built on a nude beach

Revisit this post in about 5 months........I'd bet the residual values reflect their age. I picked 5 months, end of summer to give the market time to adjust (if the summer is slow/banned boating/events)

To be fair, LOTO seems to be the only place where prices are high. That is the place ship your boat to for a broker to sell.

This is one of my favorites:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...OM5ZoLBDoPTcqI

humm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4...7hmupxMVIqOTaY

hmmm what`s your point ??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GFw...grH5ZZ9MZPu4B4

You really need it to be explained? Don't think so, your much smarter then that I'm sure.
Where's the dates when these comments were said? The one which showed MSNBC in front, have Fox morning Joe behind it.

From your post I have assumed your a forever Trumper (shoot someone on 5th Ave) , all good, I'm not, even though I did vote for him, but will never do that again.

My point which seems to get passed by from previous post. All media wants to make money (Fox, CBS, NBS, ABC, BBC, CNN) so they all try to get highest ratings. This is not an issue for the most part until you get ones which spread lies just to keep ratings up (Fox number one rated channel , Hannity). The media is not the issue, spreading the term fake news is. If your not smart enough to filter thru the stuff, then you have a problem. Don't listen to one channel, listen all over the world to get what is going on

I don't want to see the day that there is only one news channel left, then we'll be in the same situation as Russia, China, Iran, Burma, etc

None are "fake news" but they all are money news, and its up to us to be smart enough to filter

I’m not all in on these conspiracy theories. It’s probably a bit of both.

The virus is at least as contagious as the flu and many times more deadly. So I don’t think we should downplay that. But I think people should quarantine based on risk and allow the rest of society to function as normal.

This could be legally challenging because companies aren’t allowed to discriminate based on age and weight, but maybe they could wave that.

Also this is an overdue recession. The virus was the trigger, and a confounding factor, but debt and borrowing had been at unprecedented levels.

As it stands today you can't fix stupid or the corona virus. Don't be one and get the other.

Make no mistake, there is "News with an agenda" I'm not going to get into a sparring match because it's clear your mind is made up and there is no changing it but anyone can see that certain networks have a very clear agenda, their candidate didn't get elected.

At least one country isn`t baited by the hysteria.
http://www.thecommentator.com/articl...c37Q4.facebook

So Sweeds are doing this right?? I don't think so carry on!:hitfan:

I've seen two threads start out about legitimate subjects and then take a hard left to devolve into petty political sniping. Every person on this planet is effected by this virus and it would be a perfect time for people to drop the political finger pointing. If your boat was sinking would that be a good time for people to disagree about how you should be bailing water or would it be better if everyone worked together? This thread started out about stocks but it's getting hijacked. Perhaps political commentary could be confined to one thread so people could avoid it, or better yet, no politics discussed.

Just a thought. Stay safe everyone.

X2...

My apologies to the group, hope you all make it past this. Unsubscribe

If the news over the weekend is positive on the virus, what will the week do with stocks. Boy, there are some cheap energy stocks that look very tempting..........

still lots of good Values and she'll keep clawing back up like this never happened . bought Gold & silver bullion back March 18 and pretty much caught the bottom ..Very happy at the moment

check out latest from PSTI !

I am skeptical if the gains last week will hold but I hope so.

Kind of wishing I had shares in Zoom right now. :)

Lot's of people would like to know that. History suggests we have more volatility to come. But as always, nobody knows.

I bought at the IPO because it was already a profitable company. Sold when the news about security and companies telling employees to stop using Zoom came out. I'm sure they will get on top of things but I took the profits and put it into another undervalued stock. Eventually things should stabilize but until then it will be a roller coaster.