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Donziben 08-07-2020 09:17 AM

I believe all the other major brands and there customers are experiencing the same thing with back orders and shortage of supply. Every industry is. And it would still suck to have your new or used boat sitting because your waiting on parts. But, the purchase price of them is way cheaper than mercury. It might not taste so bad, when your waiting a little longer than expected. That said, I just had my 250 Suzuki serviced here at a little marina and they had all parts in stock.

NASCAT 08-07-2020 09:32 AM

Gator- I'm pretty sure your dealer could assist if they didn't automatically want to default to Mercury since it's their issue.

Nor-Tech & other manufacturers like MTI even Statement order and receive complete Merc 450's w/o issue.

Engines are hung on Nor-Tech Transoms some 2+ mos before boats are complete, I think it comes down to the relationship and whether someone wants to go the extra mile for you.

If you know what you need Ben Robertson at BAR Marine may be able to help you, he's in Jacksonboro, SC (near Charlestion, SC) & very tight w/ Mercury.

Tiki Joe 08-07-2020 10:19 AM

My fuel pump went out on my Mastercraft. Was told 4-5 weeks with no guarntee it would be then....it's been 2 already. Fingers crossed I get it sometime soon!

SUPERSTITIOUS 08-07-2020 10:24 AM

Trying to install a set a 300R’s on my Superboat. One thing after another you need this relay you need this sensor you need that harness mercury said they were sending it out right away between them and UPS being overwhelmed Waiting three weeks easily for stuff. Certainly feel your pain

ALL_IN! 08-07-2020 10:30 AM

Very well said. I just passed my 25 year anniversary at the big T - for a minute, I thought you were talking about big T. LOL The auto industry is crazy and rewarding.

Been there done that! lol

Sure hate that the OP is dealing with this. I'd be pissed too.


Originally Posted by Slippery (Post 4751766)
1st - Having a broken boat truly sucks & if parts aren't available that definitely adds to the suckage. We've all been there, and saying that doesn't make it any better because while my favorite boater is me, I'm sure your favorite boater is you.

I don't know how the big M works exactly in terms of production and allocation, but I've grown up in the automotive industry so don't shoot the messenger, but let me provide a bit of perspective that's being overlooked.

1st - As previously mentioned, "Just in time" manufacturing is a reality and means as the last "widget" in the bin is being installed on a vehicle, a rail car is unloading more "widgets" and re-supplying the inventory in the plant. Most "widget" suppliers have their business model in tune and have production to match orders and don't overproduce, because it's money on the shelf instead of in the bank account. Now add a pandemic/earthquake/tsunami/fire into the mix and break not only the supply chain, but also interrupt production and you have not only unhappy customers, but also unhappy shareholders. Now, have a few "widget" suppliers close their doors, and you truly have a Charlie Foxtrot as manufacturers scramble to find replacements. As far as the automotive industry goes, I'm not sure the auto manufacturers have even figured out which of all their suppliers are still in business. The more complex the supply chain, the more "Charlie Foxtrotted" the situation is. I've got a buddy in the footwear industry and we were drinking and solving problems and he said "I've got a plant full of vibram over here, a plant full of leather over there, and the plant that puts them together is closed and we've got dealers screaming for product".

2nd - as far as stealing parts from production - here's something to think about, and it's not pretty:

As an oversimplification, the manufacturer sells vehicles to the dealer. Dealers have vehicles they've earned through the sales & allocation process which aren't produced yet. (We've got trucks scheduled right now with targeted production weeks into September, and I believe October). Some of those vehicles are ordered specifically for a customer (special order) and it's also common on high demand stuff (everything right now) to "sell" an inbound unit before it gets here (we have several un-produced vehicles spoken for right now).

At this point you can probably see the issue with robbing parts off the production line, at least as it pertains to the auto industry: Every Single Vehicle is sold to a dealer prior to it even getting to the plant and going down the assembly line.

Stealing a part from production means taking a widget off the assy line to give to a dealer to fix "customer Smith", and is literally stealing the part from a dealer who's been waiting for the vehicle and may have it sold to "customer Jones". Those parts you want to steal from the assembly line aren't theirs to give, especially if the part is robbed from a vehicle waiting for transport...when the tires hit the ground off the assembly line, the dealer is billed for the vehicle...up until that point the vehicle is merely "spoken for" but as soon as it falls (sometimes I think literally, but that's another story) off the line belongs to the dealer because we've paid for it.

All this doesn't lessen the suck factor, but it is why it's very difficult to rob from production. Your dealer is no doubt screaming at Merc to rob one from production because "I can't get the part for a customer but you're building and shipping new motors every day". However, the dealer that owns the motor Merc wants to rob the part from is saying "Not a frickin' chance you're stealing MY part because I have a customer waiting on this motor". It s a bad situation.

Here's the ugly truth in terms of "bad business model to not rob parts for a customer off an engine in a crate"...let me add the rest of the sentence for you..."...off a DEALER's engine in a crate which has already been paid for (and who may have a customer waiting on that engine for his boat). How pissed are you likely to be if you bought a boat at the boat show, have been waiting for months for you dealer to get the engine from Merc so they can rig your boat, and your dealer calls you and tells you "Uh, it's gonna be another couple weeks because we found out they robbed parts from your engine, so you're probably going to have to make different vacation plans because there's no way your boat is going to be ready like we promised. Sorry 'bout that".

Yeah, it sucks, and all I've done is piss you off further, but we have the same issues and arguments with parts in the automotive industry. "Backordered" is a reality and GM/Ford/Ram is making vehicles everyday with the parts we're waiting on to fix a customers vehicle. And I think sometimes the definition of "backorder" is "We're planting the trees to make the boxes to ship your parts in". ****.

If there's any good news at all - at least in my opinion - is that your issue is with an OB, and Merc is smart enough to know they have competition in that market and you can vote with your $$ the next time you're shopping.

I would think your dealer would be encouraging you to politely be the squeaky wheel on the Merc customer assistance line, and they should be burning up the parts locator and phone trying to beg borrow or steal a part from some other dealer. Or rob the part off an inventory motor, (also a tough decision if demand is high and supply is low) if there is such a thing. And they should be communicating with Merc daily..the squeaky wheel does tend to get greased.

The problem as I see it is the manufacturer must balance having a supply of parts they know are going to break and be available to service customers against answering to shareholders who want every last part to go on a high demand product they can't produce enough of.

It's like airlines deliberately over-booking a flight; I think it's a bad biz decision but every airline does it, so I must be missing something.

In my opinion, the bad biz decision isn't Merc not robbing a part off someone's spoken for engine, but rather in Mercury not requiring the supplier to be able to produce - and Mercury purchase and provide to dealers - sufficient parts to service their product.

I'm really not trying to be "Richard Cranium"...it's just my $ .02 based on what we see in the automotive industry & I'm sure it doesn't help because at the end of the day, you've got a new boat you can't use and summer is short. That sucks.

I hope you're in the water soon.

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Interceptor 08-07-2020 10:39 AM

Don't you sorta wonder what the total spare parts allocation exists for this engine ? I'm betting slim to none.

Padraig 08-07-2020 04:16 PM

Kind of glad I have BBC that I can get parts for almost anywhere. Now cross me fingers that tie XR drive holds up.

Padraig

F-2 Speedy 08-07-2020 04:56 PM

I thought OB's are never down, run for ever without a glitch, Im never going back to a stern drive EVER :D...............hope you get the parts soon OP

GatorMD 08-24-2020 08:21 PM

Update:

Those parts eventually came in, and when we splashed the boat for sea trial. Sure enough, the motor didnt run. My mercury mechanic went through all the sensors and the PCMa I believe was only reading 0.7v when it should be 5 like its "b" and "c" counterparts. He spent the afternoon that day on the phone with mercury and they think its ECM harness that needs replacing (which you guessed is ALSO on backorder). So he put the cowling back on and guess what, the motor ran beautifully. We eventually took it out for sea trial and the boat ran hard without issues.

So, I decided to bite the bullet and go on the poker run. After my ride to Destin at cruising speed without opening it up it ran fine. Next morning we fired it up at the marina without problem. So far so good however, when we went to get on plane the motor bogged out and eventually caught up to the port and center but limited me to about 5100rpm which was my max that day. Next day, the actual poker run, it limited me to 3500ish, slipped in guardian and the P and C motor were also affected. FML. Fuel consumption during that time also shot WAY up as that stbd motor was running VERY rich and blowing a decent black smoke trail. I burned about 120g in 50miles.

Ultimately we completed the poker run causing around 45mph which was still a fun experience being my first poker run, but VERY frustrating with boats passing us.

Fast forward over a week, I believe the parts are finally here and will be installed soon. The saga continues! Hoping I can have all 3 motors running for Tampa poker run in late September since I had already signed up. I'm fortunate that Destin is near Pensacola and just took the boat back to the marina. I certainly will not be trailering the boat to Tampa if this issue is not resolved.

302Sport 08-24-2020 09:06 PM

Same here, broke a prop shaft on one of my M8’s and they’re saying backordered until Sept 8. You would think a prop shaft wouldn’t be that hard to come by. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️


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