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I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.
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How close to shore was he running when the wake jump happened ?
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So nobody jumps wakes now with a performance boat?
Dont drink and wear your lanyard is the problem I see. |
Originally Posted by WARPARTY36
(Post 4755431)
I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.
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Originally Posted by WARPARTY36
(Post 4755431)
I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.
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Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4755359)
Wow, just watched the video. That is one of my pet peeves. D-bags jumping wakes for camera shots. He's lucky someone wasn't seriously injured or killed.
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Originally Posted by WARPARTY36
(Post 4755431)
I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.
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unbelievable
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Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 4755666)
Yep, running stupid. Launched and caught starboard drive on re entry and hooked hard right
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This website gets more ridiculous by the day. If the driver of this boat was a well respected member of OSO, he would be defended every way possible. Because he is not a member here, he needs to go to prison, a D-bag (insert) !! All you guys pile on like a pack of wolfs..It's so obvious everyone of you don't drink and drive, wear your lanyards, PFD on at all times and obey every single law there is! Must be a bunch of bubble boys! 5 pages of non-sense!!
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Originally Posted by 96scarab
(Post 4756158)
This website gets more ridiculous by the day. If the driver of this boat was a well respected member of OSO, he would be defended every way possible. Because he is not a member here, he needs to go to prison, a D-bag (insert) !! All you guys pile on like a pack of wolfs..It's so obvious everyone of you don't drink and drive, wear your lanyards, PFD on at all times and obey every single law there is! Must be a bunch of bubble boys! 5 pages of non-sense!!
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Bit of truth there ^^ but I'm not as passionate about it as you are.
I think many of us (myself included) have been guilty of pushing the alcohol limit but that doesn't mean I can defend it. As for jumping boat wakes, keep doing it, that's what these boats are designed to do. The guy stuffed up, just make sure you're not the next one to do the same. 🙂 RR |
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!
A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it. That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in. |
Originally Posted by Quinlan
(Post 4756157)
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4755939)
That's what happens? Damn, I never had twins. Oh, and I don't deliberately jump wakes ever because enough seem to come out of nowhere and catch me off guard but the little Donzi flies straight and true! :)
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Originally Posted by 96scarab
(Post 4756158)
This website gets more ridiculous by the day. !!
i disagree. This website is wwayyyyy more laid back than it used to be. Only been a few comments about a this guy drinking, jumping, losing control, and running over someone’s property. We supposed to pat him on the back or something ? Lololol |
Originally Posted by Helmwurst
(Post 4756219)
That looks pretty cool, BUT, if you land slightly to the right, wind, angle of reentry, drive failure, whatever, probably going to torpedo the cruiser dude. Guess what, who's at fault ? You guessed it. Not the cruiser dude, and he probably has a better lawyer, or is one !!
its not near as close as it looks. I have lost more drives than i care to count and Never has my Cig veered anywhere. Just be safe people and Always wear the lanyard. |
Lost an outdrive on my new 93 28’ challenger from hitting a dead head submerged at 80 plus. Not a fun trip but manageable with a “death grip” on the helm. (Always when running hard)
Given it was the starboard side didn’t help matters much. The drive completely ripped off at the gimble. Shaft still in place and severed at the ujoint. A month later after getting back from the factory for repairs and replacement and some run time same side popped out of gear at WOT due to mis proper cable adjustment. Not quite the same experience as the first however very similar. Was at least able to safely bring back to a stop. Both times were in 2 to 3 footers plus at close to 6k rpm - 80 plus. I often wonder what it would’ve been like in today’s speeds. |
What everyone has said is true, everyone has jumped a wake or two, you should be wearing your lanyard and PFD, times have changed at this site and people are quick to pass judgement.
The important thing is everyone reading this thread will now think about it, and what can happen if you do not boat responsible. I am sure if the owner or driver of the boat had to do it over again he may do things differently. Thankfully no one was killed, and hopefully no one was badly injured. Everyone on this site and others, pride themselves on their boat or driving ability, obviously this guy now has this to live up to every time he is seen in his boat. Hopefully others can learn from his mistake. |
Originally Posted by 96scarab
(Post 4756158)
This website gets more ridiculous by the day. If the driver of this boat was a well respected member of OSO, he would be defended every way possible. Because he is not a member here, he needs to go to prison, a D-bag (insert) !! All you guys pile on like a pack of wolfs..It's so obvious everyone of you don't drink and drive, wear your lanyards, PFD on at all times and obey every single law there is! Must be a bunch of bubble boys! 5 pages of non-sense!!
Originally Posted by bajaholic
(Post 4756212)
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!
A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed. It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober. Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail. In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction. I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested. Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober. |
Originally Posted by SinOjos
(Post 4756371)
Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!
You sound like an insane bible thumper. A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed. It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober. Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail. In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction. I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested. Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober. I had to pick up the pieces of 6 kids that were hit by a drunk driver when I was about 21 years old. We were one of the first people on the scene after it happened, LONG before the emergency people. Only to find out later that night one was a daughter of a close friend. Please do a ride along with your local emergency personnel on a couple of accidents where drinking was involved and let me know what you think then. My serious stance on drinking and driving is simple, If you drink get a designated driver. It is not you I care about at all, I really don't care!!!! But if you hit a person or family that has not been drinking it is your fault, period, it is completely preventable! Driving to excess in the US has consequences regardless if you are sober or otherwise, yes the penalties are worse for DWI, as they should be, but you will get hammered both criminally but in the US there is also the civil side which in most cases is life altering! PLEASE stay in Mexico, you appear to be the reason we have border/immigration standards! |
Originally Posted by SinOjos
(Post 4756371)
Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!
You sound like an insane bible thumper. A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed. It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober. Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail. In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction. I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested. Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober. |
Originally Posted by SinOjos
(Post 4756371)
Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!
You sound like an insane bible thumper. A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed. It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober. Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail. In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction. I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested. Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober. |
Originally Posted by SinOjos
(Post 4756371)
I am an idiot please excuse me and ignore anything further in this post.....
Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL! You sound like an insane bible thumper. Blah, Blah Blah |
This is getting ridiculous. :picard1:
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just be careful guys there was a fatal night time accident not long ago in the loto a family was hurt and the mother died when broadsided by a impaired driver heres a link to the story https://www.lakeexpo.com/boating/boa...6154ef8b2.html
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Originally Posted by Helmwurst
(Post 4756219)
That looks pretty cool, BUT, if you land slightly to the right, wind, angle of reentry, drive failure, whatever, probably going to torpedo the cruiser dude. Guess what, who's at fault ? You guessed it. Not the cruiser dude, and he probably has a better lawyer, or is one !!
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Originally Posted by bajaholic
(Post 4756212)
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!
A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it. That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in. |
Originally Posted by 96scarab
(Post 4756438)
That's my point..No PFD. Is that a child standing up in the back? Once again, he is a well respected member here so it is OK..
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Originally Posted by bajaholic
(Post 4756212)
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!
A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it. That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in. |
Originally Posted by Helmwurst
(Post 4756441)
Wondered that myself, if that was a kid in back. But did not want to go there. Besides if it is a kid and that were me as a kid, I would be grinning from ear to ear and laughing my ass off.
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Originally Posted by 96scarab
(Post 4756445)
Agreed! But if you're not with the in crowd here the safety police with crucify you....
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Kinda funny, people "ooh and ahh" over wake jumping videos/pictures all the time saying how awesome they are. Until something goes wrong...then he is an idiot.
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Originally Posted by onesickpantera
(Post 4756504)
Kinda funny, people "ooh and ahh" over wake jumping videos/pictures all the time saying how awesome they are. Until something goes wrong...then he is an idiot.
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Explain that $75K claim to your insurance company?
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4756575)
There is a fine line between cool and running out of talent...............this is one of my favorite examples, soooo coool until the end, the very end!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4756575)
There is a fine line between cool and running out of talent...............this is one of my favorite examples, soooo coool until the end, the very end!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU |
Originally Posted by PA.WOODCHUCK
(Post 4756627)
Explain that $75K claim to your insurance company?
Hey the kid might be in a new Farmers insurance commercial! :D |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 4756575)
There is a fine line between cool and running out of talent
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