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WARPARTY36 09-01-2020 09:54 AM

I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.

Interceptor 09-01-2020 09:58 AM

How close to shore was he running when the wake jump happened ?

CT River Baja 09-01-2020 10:48 AM

So nobody jumps wakes now with a performance boat?
Dont drink and wear your lanyard is the problem I see.

KCHOTBOAT 09-02-2020 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by WARPARTY36 (Post 4755431)
I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.

I asked at my normal stop in Camdenton this morning and a dispatcher and deputy where there. They told me they booked 6 over the weekend for DWI on the water. That is one out of three counties around the lake. Back in the 90's there was a RV for a booking station at PB2 on busy weekends. Keep in mind the water patrol has a booking station at the Horny Toad and it is state troopers not local.

Griff 09-03-2020 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by WARPARTY36 (Post 4755431)
I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.

No way there were 391. Not even possible with one breath tester. The person giving the test observes suspect for 15 minutes prior to test --one at a time. You can test about 3 people per hour.

Griff 09-03-2020 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4755359)
Wow, just watched the video. That is one of my pet peeves. D-bags jumping wakes for camera shots. He's lucky someone wasn't seriously injured or killed.

Yep, running stupid. Launched and caught starboard drive on re entry and hooked hard right

TBAG 09-03-2020 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by WARPARTY36 (Post 4755431)
I know 391 sounds crazy but that's what the man said. If it's like it was in the 90's, they had buses lined up waiting in the state park to use as paddy wagons.

Dude, you got told a tall tale. I bet there hasn't been 391 BUI's total in all the years the shootout has been happening.


518_Jim 09-04-2020 09:20 PM

unbelievable

thirdchildhood 09-05-2020 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4755666)
Yep, running stupid. Launched and caught starboard drive on re entry and hooked hard right

That's what happens? Damn, I never had twins. Oh, and I don't deliberately jump wakes ever because enough seem to come out of nowhere and catch me off guard but the little Donzi flies straight and true! :)

Quinlan 09-08-2020 07:37 AM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...811d36f0d3.jpg

Me either :riding:

96scarab 09-08-2020 07:43 AM

This website gets more ridiculous by the day. If the driver of this boat was a well respected member of OSO, he would be defended every way possible. Because he is not a member here, he needs to go to prison, a D-bag (insert) !! All you guys pile on like a pack of wolfs..It's so obvious everyone of you don't drink and drive, wear your lanyards, PFD on at all times and obey every single law there is! Must be a bunch of bubble boys! 5 pages of non-sense!!

B38 09-08-2020 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by 96scarab (Post 4756158)
This website gets more ridiculous by the day. If the driver of this boat was a well respected member of OSO, he would be defended every way possible. Because he is not a member here, he needs to go to prison, a D-bag (insert) !! All you guys pile on like a pack of wolfs..It's so obvious everyone of you don't drink and drive, wear your lanyards, PFD on at all times and obey every single law there is! Must be a bunch of bubble boys! 5 pages of non-sense!!

agreed!

rak rua 09-08-2020 09:02 AM

Bit of truth there ^^ but I'm not as passionate about it as you are.
I think many of us (myself included) have been guilty of pushing the alcohol limit but that doesn't mean I can defend it.

As for jumping boat wakes, keep doing it, that's what these boats are designed to do.

The guy stuffed up, just make sure you're not the next one to do the same. 🙂

RR

bajaholic 09-08-2020 02:15 PM

I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!

A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it.

That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in.

Helmwurst 09-08-2020 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4756157)

That looks pretty cool, BUT, if you land slightly to the right, wind, angle of reentry, drive failure, whatever, probably going to torpedo the cruiser dude. Guess what, who's at fault ? You guessed it. Not the cruiser dude, and he probably has a better lawyer, or is one !!

Griff 09-08-2020 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4755939)
That's what happens? Damn, I never had twins. Oh, and I don't deliberately jump wakes ever because enough seem to come out of nowhere and catch me off guard but the little Donzi flies straight and true! :)

Rarely happens. He did not hit the wake straight on enough. I have launched off cruiser wakes that big more times than I can count at LOTO........but not at the 65+ mph that he was supposedly going and certainly not while drunk. A friend of mine saw it happen.

SB 09-08-2020 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by 96scarab (Post 4756158)
This website gets more ridiculous by the day. !!

Lol.

i disagree.

This website is wwayyyyy more laid back than it used to be.

Only been a few comments about a this guy drinking, jumping, losing control, and running over someone’s property.

We supposed to pat him on the back or something ?

Lololol

Quinlan 09-09-2020 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4756219)
That looks pretty cool, BUT, if you land slightly to the right, wind, angle of reentry, drive failure, whatever, probably going to torpedo the cruiser dude. Guess what, who's at fault ? You guessed it. Not the cruiser dude, and he probably has a better lawyer, or is one !!


its not near as close as it looks. I have lost more drives than i care to count and Never has my Cig veered anywhere.

Just be safe people and Always wear the lanyard.

getrdunn 09-09-2020 03:44 PM

Lost an outdrive on my new 93 28’ challenger from hitting a dead head submerged at 80 plus. Not a fun trip but manageable with a “death grip” on the helm. (Always when running hard)

Given it was the starboard side didn’t help matters much. The drive completely ripped off at the gimble. Shaft still in place and severed at the ujoint.

A month later after getting back from the factory for repairs and replacement and some run time same side popped out of gear at WOT due to mis proper cable adjustment. Not quite the same experience as the first however very similar. Was at least able to safely bring back to a stop. Both times were in 2 to 3 footers plus at close to 6k rpm - 80 plus.

I often wonder what it would’ve been like in today’s speeds.

1Zoom 09-09-2020 04:15 PM

What everyone has said is true, everyone has jumped a wake or two, you should be wearing your lanyard and PFD, times have changed at this site and people are quick to pass judgement.

The important thing is everyone reading this thread will now think about it, and what can happen if you do not boat responsible. I am sure if the owner or driver of the boat had to do it over again he may do things differently. Thankfully no one was killed, and hopefully no one was badly injured.

Everyone on this site and others, pride themselves on their boat or driving ability, obviously this guy now has this to live up to every time he is seen in his boat. Hopefully others can learn from his mistake.

SinOjos 09-09-2020 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by 96scarab (Post 4756158)
This website gets more ridiculous by the day. If the driver of this boat was a well respected member of OSO, he would be defended every way possible. Because he is not a member here, he needs to go to prison, a D-bag (insert) !! All you guys pile on like a pack of wolfs..It's so obvious everyone of you don't drink and drive, wear your lanyards, PFD on at all times and obey every single law there is! Must be a bunch of bubble boys! 5 pages of non-sense!!

Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!


Originally Posted by bajaholic (Post 4756212)
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!

You sound like an insane bible thumper.

A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.

It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.

Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.

In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.

I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.

Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.

bajaholic 09-09-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by SinOjos (Post 4756371)
Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!



You sound like an insane bible thumper.

A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.

It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.

Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.

In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.

I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.

Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.

Insane Bible Thumper???? Seriously, You do not know me in the least, every time I get near a church there is a lightning storm....

I had to pick up the pieces of 6 kids that were hit by a drunk driver when I was about 21 years old. We were one of the first people on the scene after it happened, LONG before the emergency people. Only to find out later that night one was a daughter of a close friend. Please do a ride along with your local emergency personnel on a couple of accidents where drinking was involved and let me know what you think then.

My serious stance on drinking and driving is simple, If you drink get a designated driver. It is not you I care about at all, I really don't care!!!! But if you hit a person or family that has not been drinking it is your fault, period, it is completely preventable!

Driving to excess in the US has consequences regardless if you are sober or otherwise, yes the penalties are worse for DWI, as they should be, but you will get hammered both criminally but in the US there is also the civil side which in most cases is life altering!

PLEASE stay in Mexico, you appear to be the reason we have border/immigration standards!

Indy 09-09-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by SinOjos (Post 4756371)
Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!



You sound like an insane bible thumper.

A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.

It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.

Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.

In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.

I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.

Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.

Good gawd...

Stuckonstupid 09-09-2020 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by SinOjos (Post 4756371)
Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!



You sound like an insane bible thumper.

A lot more people are killed and or seriously injured by Sober people than people consuming alcohol. In a number of countries around the world drinking and driving is accepted behavior, within limits of course, yet they do not have an abnormal increase in accident rates. But actually harming someone is a crime. You go to jail drunk or sober until ability to provide restitution is proven for those that you injured and or killed.

It is not alcohol that causes accidents by it self, it is people making mistakes and or being negligent in the safe operation of a motor vehicle, works both ways intoxicated or sober.

Does not matter if you are drunk or sober, harm or kill someone. You Should Go To Jail.

In the US there is some absurd reasoning that drinking and driving and you harm or kill someone that is bad behavior. But if you are Sober it is completely acceptable behavior with no jail time at all, not even an arrest-able offense. The worst you might get is a citation, a summons to appear for some little driving infraction.

I stopped riding motorcycles in the US, after being hit a few times by sober drivers, and watching my friends get killed by Sober drivers. I am not aware of anyone that has ever gone to jail for killing people, if they were not drinking alcohol. Yet the people the sober people kill are just as dead. Not one of the people that killed my friends went to jail, nor were they arrested.

Please explain to me in detail. There are manslaughter laws, but outside of the intoxicated, terrorist or hate crime, no ones seems to be held responsible for killing people with a motor vehicle, even when they kill a whole family. Parents are sent to jail/prison for dropping their young child accidentally killing them. Why is it bad to kill people driving a motor vehicle while having consumed alcohol. But perfectly OK, totally acceptable and perfectly legal to kill people driving a motor vehicle while sober.

re read what you wrote, when you’re sober. Surely you aren’t that stupid?

Awash 09-09-2020 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by SinOjos (Post 4756371)
I am an idiot please excuse me and ignore anything further in this post.....

Exactly, they sound like a bunch of bible thumping puritans, everyone else outside of their perfect little group is EVIL!

You sound like an insane bible thumper.

Blah, Blah Blah

Well we have now reached that point in an internet discussion where intelligent conversation has left the building as evidenced by the quoted post, but I have assisted you by editing it and condensing to more manageable levels.... you're welcome!

thirdchildhood 09-09-2020 07:29 PM

This is getting ridiculous. :picard1:

boostbros 09-09-2020 07:49 PM

just be careful guys there was a fatal night time accident not long ago in the loto a family was hurt and the mother died when broadsided by a impaired driver heres a link to the story https://www.lakeexpo.com/boating/boa...6154ef8b2.html

96scarab 09-10-2020 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4756219)
That looks pretty cool, BUT, if you land slightly to the right, wind, angle of reentry, drive failure, whatever, probably going to torpedo the cruiser dude. Guess what, who's at fault ? You guessed it. Not the cruiser dude, and he probably has a better lawyer, or is one !!

That's my point..No PFD. Is that a child standing up in the back? Once again, he is a well respected member here so it is OK..

96scarab 09-10-2020 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by bajaholic (Post 4756212)
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!

A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it.

That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in.

If somebody gets pulled over and blows a .09 they should go to jail forever?

Helmwurst 09-10-2020 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by 96scarab (Post 4756438)
That's my point..No PFD. Is that a child standing up in the back? Once again, he is a well respected member here so it is OK..

Wondered that myself, if that was a kid in back. But did not want to go there. Besides if it is a kid and that were me as a kid, I would be grinning from ear to ear and laughing my ass off.

96scarab 09-10-2020 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by bajaholic (Post 4756212)
I don't car who you are..... There are procedures all Performance Boaters must do: DO NOT DRIVE AFTER DRINKING! I seriously do not care who you are, if you are BWI, You should go to jail forever.... If you want to know why I feel that way, let me know and I will send you the addresses of the parents and the story behind the 6 kids that were killed by a drunk driver. The second is wearing your lanyard while under way. IT IS NOT THAT TOUGH!

A close 3rd is wearing your Lifejacket. Buy a Lifeline and wear it, after the first few times out it becomes second nature and you feel funny without it.

That way, "driving" your boat hard is still risky, that is why we own offshore boats, but at least if something goes wrong, the safety measures will kick in.

Double post.....

96scarab 09-10-2020 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4756441)
Wondered that myself, if that was a kid in back. But did not want to go there. Besides if it is a kid and that were me as a kid, I would be grinning from ear to ear and laughing my ass off.

Agreed! But if you're not with the in crowd here the safety police with crucify you....

Drock78 09-10-2020 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by 96scarab (Post 4756445)
Agreed! But if you're not with the in crowd here the safety police with crucify you....

x 100. If it were certain members, people would be drying their tears, asking how they are doing, if they are ok, how the boat is, best wishes, prayers, blah blah blah.

onesickpantera 09-10-2020 12:12 PM

Kinda funny, people "ooh and ahh" over wake jumping videos/pictures all the time saying how awesome they are. Until something goes wrong...then he is an idiot.

Jupiter Sunsation 09-10-2020 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 4756504)
Kinda funny, people "ooh and ahh" over wake jumping videos/pictures all the time saying how awesome they are. Until something goes wrong...then he is an idiot.

There is a fine line between cool and running out of talent...............this is one of my favorite examples, soooo coool until the end, the very end!



PA.WOODCHUCK 09-11-2020 06:43 AM

Explain that $75K claim to your insurance company?

scarabman 09-11-2020 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4756575)
There is a fine line between cool and running out of talent...............this is one of my favorite examples, soooo coool until the end, the very end!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU

Flys like an Apache..........just doesnt land like one:picard1:

96scarab 09-11-2020 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4756575)
There is a fine line between cool and running out of talent...............this is one of my favorite examples, soooo coool until the end, the very end!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU

I hope he gets life in prison!!!

Jupiter Sunsation 09-11-2020 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by PA.WOODCHUCK (Post 4756627)
Explain that $75K claim to your insurance company?

Starts with my dad was out of town and his Raptor was in the driveway...........followed by my idols growing up where the Dukes of Hazard.......so I was out at the dirt roads and Captain Morgan was telling me I could jump that berm since after all it is a Raptor...........so the launch was great, the landing was just a bit rough.

Hey the kid might be in a new Farmers insurance commercial! :D

onesickpantera 09-11-2020 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 4756575)
There is a fine line between cool and running out of talent

I agree it is a fine line. Also a fine line even if the talent is there, as boat wakes can be very difficult to read. My point was we all love monster wake jumps, until an accident happens. Then people jump all over the operator.


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