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Whats about this?? HELP
I am from Spain, I have been seeing this boat for more than 15 years standing ... Is it a Wellcraft Scarab 38 Kv with some modifications similar to the Miami Vice? Apparently he's from Nice, France ... But I'm not sure either. What is the value of this as it is (abandoned at least 10 years) Which engines are they? Someone knows something about her, tell me what you think about her.
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Originally Posted by Benjale87
(Post 4799723)
I am from Spain, I have been seeing this boat for more than 15 years standing ... Is it a Wellcraft Scarab 38 Kv with some modifications similar to the Miami Vice? Apparently he's from Nice, France ... But I'm not sure either. What is the value of this as it is (abandoned at least 10 years) Which engines are they? Someone knows something about her, tell me what you think about her.
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those are the rules, so keep posting til you get to 10
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Just keep posting till you get to ten post then you can upload pics. One word post will work. You will get a lot more info from people once you post pics of that boat.
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Like they say ^^ keep, posting. Once we see pics, you’ll get all the answers.
There’s a lot of guys here who know all about Scarabs and will offer lots of advice. Generally, any old boat that’s been standing for 15 years may need an awful lot of work. Everything from rotten stringers and transom to engine rebuilds or replacements. Scarabs are beautiful boats, look forward to seeing pics and more details. Good luck. RR. |
Originally Posted by rak rua
(Post 4799762)
Like they say ^^ keep, posting. Once we see pics, you’ll get all the answers.
There’s a lot of guys here who know all about Scarabs and will offer lots of advice. Generally, any old boat that’s been standing for 15 years may need an awful lot of work. Everything from rotten stringers and transom to engine rebuilds or replacements. Scarabs are beautiful boats, look forward to seeing pics and more details. Good luck. RR. |
And regarding the boat ... I would say that it is a Wellcraft Scarab 38 Kv without any doubt with personalization of the owner who had it, there is no trace of any logo or brand that shows that it is a Wellcraft Scarab but for the details etc, I would say yes without any doubt
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It is the boat of my dreams since as I said I have been seeing it for many years, and I never even knew what model it was ... Thanks to various forums I found out the other day, and I saw that it is quite special ... No is that so ?? I saw very few Wellcraft Scarab 38 Kv for sale and few overall
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I saw that there was a lot of talk about the eighties series Miami Vice in relation to this boat ... And yes, apparently a Wellcraft Scarab 38 Kv appeared in that series, this only increases my taste on this boat haha ... I am from Spain and I suppose that for many of this forum it is normal to speak, see and have powerboats in the MIAMI style, but here in Spain that world and that type of boats is totally unknown
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and finally I can publish the photos, I am sorry to tell you that they are from Google Maps, this is because in all those years I did not take a damn photo ... But hey ... We can do something with these photos from Google maps ... Fortunately, it takes data from 2019, if the Google maps photos were updated to 2021, the ship would not appear since they moved it from there ... Where? It's a mystery
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Here the photos finally
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[QUOTE = Benjale87; 4799864] y por fin puedo publicar las fotos, lamento decirte que son de Google Maps, esto es porque en todos esos años no tomé ni una maldita foto ... Pero bueno ... Podemos hacer algo con estas fotos de los mapas de Google ... Afortunadamente, se toman datos de 2019, si las fotos de los mapas de Google se actualizaran a 2021, la nave no aparecería ya que la movieron de allí ... ¿A dónde? Es un misterio [/ quote]
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8d02a2a715.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f03fa419b0.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1a483e4a2f.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d57cab8ba3.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8ab4f59663.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1b76af6d8c.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...76ffdd1ab4.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b5495d826a.jpg Finally Post what you think about |
Is that how it has been stored, uncovered ? What type of climate ?
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Yes, it has been standing for about 10 years, maybe it was used when I was not there but that is practically impossible since it was always in the same place and with that condition of abandonment ... but despite that ... I am sure that Someone cleaned it or something out of pain, since 10 years standing there in the sun etc I think it should look worse, the climate is that of Valencia, Spain, Mediterranean climate .... In summer a lot of sun and heat and in winter cold, air and rain. If it is true that in 2019, which was his last year there, he was moving it around etc ... But nothing more.
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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4799870)
Is that how it has been stored, uncovered ? What type of climate ?
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Well going off those pics it looks good. Thing is, you don't even know if it has engines in it. You need to go look at the boat in person and take better pics. If the boat is too far maybe you could convince somebody at the marina to take some.
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[QUOTE = zfrilly; 4799890] Bueno, saliendo de esas fotos, se ve bien. La cosa es que ni siquiera sabes si tiene motores. Tienes que ir a ver el barco en persona y tomar mejores fotos. Si el barco es demasiado tal vez podría convencer a alguien en el puerto deportivo de tomar alguna. [/ Quote]
Yes! It has its engines, perhaps not well appreciated in the photo, but if ... It has x2 Mercury 450 of the time, I think. The ship is no longer there, there is no way of knowing where it is, perhaps it is scrapped |
[QUOTE = zfrilly; 4799890] Bueno, saliendo de esas fotos, se ve bien. La cosa es que ni siquiera sabes si tiene motores. Tienes que ir a ver el barco en persona y tomar mejores fotos. Si el barco es demasiado tal vez podría convencer a alguien en el puerto deportivo de tomar alguna. [/ Quote]
Its sad because I will never know where he is and there in the port there is no trace, perhaps if I ask what was his whereabouts? |
Can you not use the visible registration number seen on the bow sides to instigate a trace ?
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Originally Posted by madbouyz
(Post 4799902)
Can you not use the visible registration number seen on the bow sides to instigate a trace ?
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Originally Posted by Benjale87
(Post 4799903)
How I can do that? The number plate is very old and from a foreign country...
As an example , out here if a boat is found floating crewless or has been abandoned illegally on someone's property those registration numbers are used to locate the owners . As a matter of fact occasionally a foreign boat or it's remains is found floating in our territorial waters and the local authorities have traced ownership back to point of origin . Is there a Spanish recreational/commercial vessel registry there ? If that number was issued in your country then some government agency ought to be able to find out who it belongs to. |
Maybe I missed something, apologies if I did but if the boat is at a marina he's paying a fee to keep it there, can't you go to the office and see who's paying the bills?
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Originally Posted by Indy
(Post 4799924)
Maybe I missed something, apologies if I did but if the boat is at a marina he's paying a fee to keep it there, can't you go to the office and see who's paying the bills?
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Even beinga couple years ago, I bet someone at the marina knows something about that boat. I would call them if I wanted info on it.
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Exactly as Madbouyz said, the ship is no longer there since approximately the end of 2019 ... Maybe now it is, which I don't think but who knows ... I will confirm it shortly since I will be there again, for the moment I can call... I will inform of that call!
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Anyway, it has been standing there for many years, surely it was abandoned and because of its sentimental value or something like that, it was there, I don't think anyone paid a fee to be standing and more so as a foreigner, hopefully all doubts will be resolved when I asked for
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So ... What do you think of this boat, its condition, what is its value ... What would you do ... I know that it is difficult to give an opinion, but to do it with the photos that are there
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Have a look at this thread….
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...-38-resto.html This is a similar boat that has been left outside for a while. The OP is doing an amazing restoration. You don’t need to read the whole thread, have a look at the pictures in the first post to get an idea of what you might find in an old boat. Most people wouldn’t take on a job that big, it takes a fanatic with good skills and a lot of patience. Without knowing a lot more about the boat you’ve been following, it could be a wreck. Transom, stringers, floor, interior, electrical, and that’s before you even look at the engines! Good luck. Rr |
Originally Posted by rak rua
(Post 4800031)
Have a look at this thread….
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...-38-resto.html This is a similar boat that has been left outside for a while. The OP is doing an amazing restoration. You don’t need to read the whole thread, have a look at the pictures in the first post to get an idea of what you might find in an old boat. Most people wouldn’t take on a job that big, it takes a fanatic with good skills and a lot of patience. Without knowing a lot more about the boat you’ve been following, it could be a wreck. Transom, stringers, floor, interior, electrical, and that’s before you even look at the engines! Good luck. Rr Thank you very much for teaching me such a good thread, how good to see someone restore these beauties, and if ... You are not wrong in anything you say ... I was currently looking for information about the ship, etc ... Maybe one day I ended up the same as that thread, at the moment I am informing myself of everything, so thank you. And as you say, it would be a super hard job and a lot of patience but that is really nice and in terms of costs, they will also be high but with love and affection haha. |
And regarding the condition of the ship, it would be something similar to that insurance, perhaps a little better because it is a little more modern I think ... And it has not been standing since the year 90, it has been a little less ... But who knows, and the engines really looked whole but I don't know in what state. Not very good I guess, what would you do ??? Would they get into a project like that? I really love that boat hahaha
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And it sounds a bit silly, but I still have doubts as to whether it is really a 38 Kv or a 38 ... Help with that, which model is it really? I notice that it is quite personalized
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...942b66f914.jpg |
KV stands for ‘Kaama Version’, a tribute to Betty Cook’s race boat. I don’t know what the differences were but I think it was only minor.
Some people believe KV stands for Kaama Vice after the Miami Vice tv show but the KV Scarabs were released a few years before the tv show was produced so it can’t be so. 🙂 Another misunderstanding, it does not refer to Kevlar in the lay up. The few boats built with Kevlar, I think they have an additional marking under the H.I.N. to identify them. RR |
Originally Posted by rak rua
(Post 4800070)
KV stands for ‘Kaama Version’, a tribute to Betty Cook’s race boat. I don’t know what the differences were but I think it was only minor.
Some people believe KV stands for Kaama Vice after the Miami Vice tv show but the KV Scarabs were released a few years before the tv show was produced so it can’t be so. 🙂 Another misunderstanding, it does not refer to Kevlar in the lay up. The few boats built with Kevlar, I think they have an additional marking under the H.I.N. to identify them. RR Thank you very much for the information, I have seen a lot that of "kaama vice" Now I know that it is kaama version. I have searched a bit and kaama means "a large African antelope with lyre-shaped horns" which in a ship I suppose it refers to its great length and their sharp shapes similar to the horns of a kaama, and so on. truth? Or it is simply a striking name for a version ... I don't know, but I hardly see differences between a KV and a normal 38, I know that the 38 is older but just that ... Does anyone know the differences between a kv and a normal one , and can you identify the model from my photos? |
^ ^
Like R/R said the name 'KAAMA' was coined by the late (and amazing) Betty Cook and used on her race boats. Another spinoff of her success was the introduction of the 'Kaama drives' her version of Arnesons . If you google for a few images you'll see she used a stylized image of a Kaama on the hull sides that matches your description. |
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