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Old 03-16-2022, 03:41 PM
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The tech to make them practical for a larger audience is just not there yet and nobody ever talks about maintenance costs. How long does a battery last and how much will it cost to replace it? Everyday we hear the glowing stories from people trying to push an EV agenda but we don't get the full picture. I'll wait till we know about ownership costs, trade in values and all of the other things associated with car ownership. Oh and have you seen the price of electricity going up? With an ICE vehicle I can shop gas stations and pricing. I don't have any choices for alternate electric companies.
California already has rolling brown outs when people turn on their AC. Imagine people plugging in cars and how that will turn out.
I do see the good side but in reality it's 20 years away from being viable for the masses.
One of the owners here...his mom had a Lexus hybrid SUV....she was older so they just kept it as it was gonna be her last car anyway at her age.....anyway the thing was about 9-10yrs old and needed the batteries replaced....cost? $8000! Trade in value of the SUV? $4500 So they said screw it and just let her drive it as a gasser. Now i know that not too many people keep cars/trucks that long (I do!) But who is going to replace these batteries when it costs more then the vehicle is worth? And with no proper infrastructure for recycling where do these batteries go? They need to really get the bugs/logistics worked out before trying to force electric on the population! I wonder if Biden made it mandatory for the car makers to recycle the batteries or take them back at end of life how the lobbying would start in DC???
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hybrid cars don't compare to full electric Tesla cars, Tesla trucks and Tesla semi's




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also I believe there are recycling plans already in place for recycling batteries. The metals inside them are precious metals and every part of the used battery can be recycled.

but when the car batteries are considered no longer useful, there are secondary markets that would buy them, for home use and electric boat use and other vehicles needing less continuous electric power






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When Elon Musk says we should be drilling for oil here in the US, kind of gives you the idea he knows this country, much less the world isn’t ready to support EVs on a large scale and won’t be for a long time. 🤔🤔🤔
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I quickly went back to the sales man and said I want to take this home now. He said "these cars are not for sale. Let's try to find you a car." Well as it turns out, there are none available. "Let's put an order for a model 3 for you", he said. We quickly went back to his desk and began to search for availability. I couldn't believe the wait is 7 months long !!!

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Many people have been waiting a year for their new Ford truck. Other manufacturers have similar stories.
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They can't even make batteries for Cordless drills that last more than a year w heavy use.
I will keep Burning my 91 for a Long time.
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That is so funny cause my Lithium battery just died in my cordless drill....its about 3yrs old and it gets used more then a typical homeowner would use but nowhere near what a pro would use it at...but atleast i can go buy one on Amazon and swap it out...not have to go to a dealer to do it and pay 10x as much!
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The tech to make them practical for a larger audience is just not there yet and nobody ever talks about maintenance costs. How long does a battery last and how much will it cost to replace it? Everyday we hear the glowing stories from people trying to push an EV agenda but we don't get the full picture. I'll wait till we know about ownership costs, trade in values and all of the other things associated with car ownership. Oh and have you seen the price of electricity going up? With an ICE vehicle I can shop gas stations and pricing. I don't have any choices for alternate electric companies.
California already has rolling brown outs when people turn on their AC. Imagine people plugging in cars and how that will turn out.
I do see the good side but in reality it's 20 years away from being viable for the masses.
the power grid cant handle it. the people with electric cars do not pay the road taxes that are built into fuel cost. we just are not ready for everyone or even 20% of the population to have EV as a daily driver.
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