I voted for Trump in both elections!

Trump wasn't right about quite a few things and loves to sign deals with big fanfare and then they crumble:
Trump University, Trump Airlines, Trump Atlantic City Casinos........
https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ailures-59556/

Rolling Stone? Hardly a source for hard hitting journalism.

While I'd agree, keep in mind it is a significant magazine outlet (with assets) that would be sued for damages if they published something false unlike thousands of "news sources" usually quoted that were created in somebody's mom's basement. Part 2: the failed Trump ventures they reported on were certainly all Trump's and they all failed.

What's your "credible" source then?

These days, I'm not sure I believe any major media outlet.

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Why should I give a F about his personal bad business deals? None of which effect me in the least. Contrast his policies with what we have now and then tell me how much he sucks.

Everyone with a computer can become a "creditable" news source now, if it fits the way you think people believe it. No need to even site references.

But back to the Bit coin millionaires buying up the CIG brand and lifestyle.

I used to have a used media store and subbed to Rolling Stone to keep up on new music. I dropped it many years ago when it became all about politics. Mr. Jupiter Sensation, I respect you but you discredited your own statements by citing Rolling Stone magazine as your source. lol

Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Not sure what Trumps failed business ventures has to do with anything .

If your referring to my post, I didn’t think it was necessary, old news, common knowledge etc…





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No not on yours, just more of a general comment.

Today's word kids is: Contradiction

So yes Rolling Stone makes mistakes, got sued and paid the claims..............yet Trump didn't sue for defamation on the story on his 13 failed businesses?

I already conceded that Rolling Stone isn't hard hitting journalism but the Trump story on his 13 failed businesses certainly stands and he didn't sue them for being wrong. The fact is all 13 went down in flames.

so what are you saying are you saying that he’s a failure just because some of his business failed?
how many of his business were successful? Do you think he got to be where he’s at by mistake or by not knowing what he’s doing?,
I know some people on here have made mistakes such as buying boats and getting them repossessed, but then they learn from it and they move On, it does not mean that their failures in life, or does it?

All I could tell is the circle of people that I hang out with lived better when he was a president versus him been a citizen

Just about everyone was doing better before Joe and the democrats took over.

I get the feeling that the statement of him being right on anything was more of a reference to his performance as President. His Truth media might join his list of failed business ventures. But, hey, they are tax write offs.

Can we keep it to making fun of Cig please?

NO. lol. I'm about to list a bunch of Donzi T-shirts at a price no Donzi owner can refuse!

Trump is a billionaire, he is doing just fine but he is a promoter and at times stretches the truth in the process. He is a salesman, some people are blinded by the gold leaf some people aren't. I would never do business with the guy because you will get the short end of the stick and might not get paid at all.

The economy is cyclical, things were roaring for years before and after Trump was in the White House. Bitcoin went to crazy highs with Biden in office.........Do I think Sleepy Joe had anything to do with that, absolutely not! So can you blame him when it crashed down last week because he was in office? Again, absolutely not.

Trump was a great experiment (and I voted for him in both elections) but there is plenty not to love about his time in office. Like the current ownership of CRT, lots of "billionaire self promotion" but the devil is in the details.

You know I was talking about 2 different things don`t play dumb.
If you only judge people on their failures then that`s pretty small minded.
Maybe everything you do is perfect thou so you don`t have that problem

Yeah I was messing with you............I just pointed that out because all things Donald aren't always gold.

So if this is the case, you should be able to point out a few policy improvements we’re seeing now that he’s gone.

you really have no clue...

I would probably not do a deal with him, but as our President, I was OK for other countries that have been sucking off us for years getting the shorter end of the stick for a change. His deals were always done in favor of the USA, not politicians or special interest. For instance, does anybody really believe that the Paris Climate Accord helps the USA? That said, we were a big part of the funding.

Yes, I also agree that economies, for the most part, are cyclical, but today is different than in years past. Administration policy can make a difference. Absolutely idiotic policy is the reason for our high gasoline prices. There is no way that a free market could change so fast without outside intervention. Joe and Cameltoe initiated policy which has caused prices at the pump to soar and has probably impacted the middle class more than anything. 401k's, which hold much of the net worth of many, has also been affected, at least in large part, by this administration.

The Cigarette acquisition was probably the best for the folks that sold it. Great timing, as we have to be at the pinnacle of sales/revenue (or at least close). I always am in the corner of hard working entrepreneurs risking their own capital and are happy when one successfully cashes out. Most ride it too long and just fade away over time. Hopefully the private equity group is not just all smoke and mirrors. I, for one, was glad to hear that the Doug Wright deal went another direction.

Looks like he likes Miami Football also:
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/s...261633562.html

yeah not one collage NIL person will ever make me want to buy from a company.

looks like things are no longer “sold out” anymore..

I question if they ever were 🤣😂

anyone actually order anything?

Is this news?

He has always been a huge and vocal supporter and backer for the University of Miami for years on end now

In the world of college football the NIL situation and buying players is new.

Gonna need to sell some t shirts after today.

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Correct but is insane support of the program isn't. He has been a staple.of the Hurricanes for a long time.. maybe it is because i live in FL but I figured most everyone new he has always supported the college there.

why are images of National Marine flashing before me?

according to that article he is still worth about 10 billion.

Completely different scenario. The money lost was just stock valuations on a IPO. Going to jump around a bunch initially. Facebook was a great example.

One day I’ll be able to have a bad day on the street and only be worth 10B lol.

Yea only 10 Bil! From the article, don't we all wish.
It owns a portfolio of claims with a billed amount of $1.5 trillion, though it says revenue from the business hasn’t yet been substantial. That hasn’t stopped Ruiz, a son of Cuban immigrants, from living a billionaire lifestyle for some time.

He purchased a Boeing 767 previously owned by Qantas Airlines to use as his private jet, the Miami New Times reported in April. The plane once would have flown about 300 people.

After a six-month refit costing almost $10 million, it sports a theater, two lounges, a master bedroom with a full bathroom and shower and space for about 30 guests. The plane is registered to MSP Recovery Aviation LLC, a company controlled by Ruiz that MSP pays for transportation services.

Ruiz and Frank Quesada, the company’s chief legal officer who has a stake in the post-combination company that’s now worth about $3.5 billion, separately own a law firm that will be the exclusive lead counsel for MSP. That positions them to receive 20% of all recovered payments.

I graduated from UM and I've never heard of the guy until he was posted about on OSO. The recent player sponsorship, the influence on getting his brother in law the coaching job have put him in the news. The flying around Miami in the helicopter to scout out new stadium locations, tearing down Gables High School stadium were dumb stories, especially since UM/Gables HS knew nothing about it.

So he owns a medical billing company that has 1.5 trillion in claims but haven't recovered much but when they do recover he gets 20% of the unrecovered amount...............:D

Facebook was a business, millions of users to focus advertising on...........Zuckerberg is a billionaire, yet drives a Honda. Never once have I seen an article where he refers to himself as a billionaire or where he showcases his bling lifestyle.

Ruiz is more like Do Kwon the crypto guy. Kwon self promotes his own products, puts stories out on his wealth/spending and everything is awesome until................its not.

Funny in the article a hedge fund group called Pantera Capital backed/sold early and turned 1.7mm into 170mm before the meltdown.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/18/t...y-do-kwon.html

I am a Gator fan and don't live there and have heard about him and his Canes relations for a couple years now and we'll before OSO and Cigarette.

Maybe get out more?