Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4851295)

I saw the video on your IG passing that 36 DW under Antioch bridge like he was standing still.

Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 4851303)

Fun data and discussion! Thanks!

It seems that inboard cats kept getting more extreme, custom, faster, crazier, to the point that it's not "cool" to own one unless it's the fastest and best. If you build let's say a 700#6 cat its sorta boring. So might as well just own something less expensive, less maintenance, like an outboard. But that turned into now it's "ok" or "cool" to own the identical twin outboard cat as everyone else with only minor differences in colors!!??? But not cool to own a more reliable build in an inboard? Too funny!

They all break and require maintenance, especially when going larger and faster. When the outboard cats used to be priced reasonably, they made sense. Today they don't as much. Still badass boats, I would personally love to own one as my 3rd boat (2nd performance boat). But I'll never give up my inboard custom one off work of art, the look, sound, feel, ride, and handling.

Would be nice to see some custom inboard builds again. Custom power, unique top decks, bussles, measurements. There are plenty of ways to build a new inboard boat pretty reliable especially for the kind of money the twin outboards cost now.

Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4851294)

what are you even talking about? No skater in either group, what groups?

cost of ownership, poker run? Lol

skater 30 was talking about performance and speed, not what would be best to take 8 people on a drinking cruise to KW.

Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4851305)

I agree 100% with your post, especially the part about when "outboard cats used to be priced reasonably". It's part of the reason you don't see many outboard cats coming out of Skater any more. Pete tries to talk every customer that calls him wanting an outboard 368 or 388 into a 700/#6 package or 1100/#6 package. For relatively not much more money, you get a much more capable boat. The cost has just gotten so ridiculous with the outboard boats (MTI 390X/450 will set you back $800k) that they've lost their appeal for me. I've owned three 28 Skaters and my 30 Skater converted to outboards, so I'm obviously not an outboard hater, it's just that they've lost their cost advantage now, so there's no point in giving up the performance advantages of the inboards now imo.

Originally Posted by CLA (Post 4851306)

Im talking about the cost of ownership of either race boat. It’s going to be substantially cheaper to campaign the OB race boat.

Same as the pleasure boats. Sure a big power race/pleasure boat is faster but it’s fun to never get in the bilge or have to pull a motor.

Obviously judging by the amount of race and pleasure OB boats in KW this week I’m not the only one that thinks that.

Originally Posted by precisiondetails (Post 4851309)

fair enough, I just know that wasnt
Dales point. But you are of course right on that subject.

Originally Posted by CLA (Post 4851307)

My OB cat has been almost 8 times cheaper to operate for 313 hours compared to my 700 cat. I have a spreadsheet on both boats. Insurance is also 1/3 of the cost. Facts

I still miss the sound at fire up though...never get that with the outboards.

Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4851308)

^^^ on that note, anyone know the turn around time for delivery of a 700/6 or 1100/6 package?

Turn over on a 450 is crazy

Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4851311)

No doubt that the outboard boats are going to be way cheaper per hour to insure/maintain/operate than an inboard boat. In discussion with friends, I always say that if you plan to put a lot of hours every year (100+) on your performance cat, go with an outboard setup. For me personally, I don't put more than 50 hours per year on my Skater, so the benefits of the inboard outweigh the cost savings of the outboard boats. I put more hours on my other boats every year, so I don't mind spending the money when I do take the Skater out. There's obviously pluses and minuses to all boats, this thread was just pointing out that even though the outboard cats are now as big as the inboard cats, they still don't compare in the rough.