Outboard cats vs inboard cats in the rough
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Yes, the video is sped up for some weird reason (I've noticed that with several videos posted on IG), but it still shows us passing other boats with the GPS needle in the mid to upper 120s.
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Fun data and discussion! Thanks!
It seems that inboard cats kept getting more extreme, custom, faster, crazier, to the point that it's not "cool" to own one unless it's the fastest and best. If you build let's say a 700#6 cat its sorta boring. So might as well just own something less expensive, less maintenance, like an outboard. But that turned into now it's "ok" or "cool" to own the identical twin outboard cat as everyone else with only minor differences in colors!!??? But not cool to own a more reliable build in an inboard? Too funny!
They all break and require maintenance, especially when going larger and faster. When the outboard cats used to be priced reasonably, they made sense. Today they don't as much. Still badass boats, I would personally love to own one as my 3rd boat (2nd performance boat). But I'll never give up my inboard custom one off work of art, the look, sound, feel, ride, and handling.
Would be nice to see some custom inboard builds again. Custom power, unique top decks, bussles, measurements. There are plenty of ways to build a new inboard boat pretty reliable especially for the kind of money the twin outboards cost now.
It seems that inboard cats kept getting more extreme, custom, faster, crazier, to the point that it's not "cool" to own one unless it's the fastest and best. If you build let's say a 700#6 cat its sorta boring. So might as well just own something less expensive, less maintenance, like an outboard. But that turned into now it's "ok" or "cool" to own the identical twin outboard cat as everyone else with only minor differences in colors!!??? But not cool to own a more reliable build in an inboard? Too funny!
They all break and require maintenance, especially when going larger and faster. When the outboard cats used to be priced reasonably, they made sense. Today they don't as much. Still badass boats, I would personally love to own one as my 3rd boat (2nd performance boat). But I'll never give up my inboard custom one off work of art, the look, sound, feel, ride, and handling.
Would be nice to see some custom inboard builds again. Custom power, unique top decks, bussles, measurements. There are plenty of ways to build a new inboard boat pretty reliable especially for the kind of money the twin outboards cost now.
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Im talking about the cost of ownership of either race boat. It’s going to be substantially cheaper to campaign the OB race boat.
Same as the pleasure boats. Sure a big power race/pleasure boat is faster but it’s fun to never get in the bilge or have to pull a motor.
Obviously judging by the amount of race and pleasure OB boats in KW this week I’m not the only one that thinks that.
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I agree 100% with your post, especially the part about when "outboard cats used to be priced reasonably". It's part of the reason you don't see many outboard cats coming out of Skater any more. Pete tries to talk every customer that calls him wanting an outboard 368 or 388 into a 700/#6 package or 1100/#6 package. For relatively not much more money, you get a much more capable boat. The cost has just gotten so ridiculous with the outboard boats (MTI 390X/450 will set you back $800k) that they've lost their appeal for me. I've owned three 28 Skaters and my 30 Skater converted to outboards, so I'm obviously not an outboard hater, it's just that they've lost their cost advantage now, so there's no point in giving up the performance advantages of the inboards now imo.
I still miss the sound at fire up though...never get that with the outboards.
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^^^ on that note, anyone know the turn around time for delivery of a 700/6 or 1100/6 package?
Turn over on a 450 is crazy
Turn over on a 450 is crazy
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Im talking about the cost of ownership of either race boat. It’s going to be substantially cheaper to campaign the OB race boat.
Same as the pleasure boats. Sure a big power race/pleasure boat is faster but it’s fun to never get in the bilge or have to pull a motor.
Obviously judging by the amount of race and pleasure OB boats in KW this week I’m not the only one that thinks that.
Same as the pleasure boats. Sure a big power race/pleasure boat is faster but it’s fun to never get in the bilge or have to pull a motor.
Obviously judging by the amount of race and pleasure OB boats in KW this week I’m not the only one that thinks that.
Dales point. But you are of course right on that subject.
what OB cat do you have?
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MTI 340X Carbon with 400’s
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No doubt that the outboard boats are going to be way cheaper per hour to insure/maintain/operate than an inboard boat. In discussion with friends, I always say that if you plan to put a lot of hours every year (100+) on your performance cat, go with an outboard setup. For me personally, I don't put more than 50 hours per year on my Skater, so the benefits of the inboard outweigh the cost savings of the outboard boats. I put more hours on my other boats every year, so I don't mind spending the money when I do take the Skater out. There's obviously pluses and minuses to all boats, this thread was just pointing out that even though the outboard cats are now as big as the inboard cats, they still don't compare in the rough. The big surprise to me that I tried to also highlight in the thread is how close the Super Stock 32' cats were to the much bigger Stock 450 39' cats. I really expected the larger cats to be substantially faster in the rough conditions they had Friday.
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A buddy of mine just purchased a set of 1100/1350/#8 packages at the end of last year, I think it was only 2-3 months from the time he paid for them to the time they were delivered. There's not a huge backlog on those motors in comparison to the 450s that the big CCs are gobbling up at the rate of 4 to 5 at a time.
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No doubt that the outboard boats are going to be way cheaper per hour to insure/maintain/operate than an inboard boat. In discussion with friends, I always say that if you plan to put a lot of hours every year (100+) on your performance cat, go with an outboard setup. For me personally, I don't put more than 50 hours per year on my Skater, so the benefits of the inboard outweigh the cost savings of the outboard boats. I put more hours on my other boats every year, so I don't mind spending the money when I do take the Skater out. There's obviously pluses and minuses to all boats, this thread was just pointing out that even though the outboard cats are now as big as the inboard cats, they still don't compare in the rough.
What day did you run from Miami to Key West?
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