Are cats really that dangerous??
#81
the older ones do have the pod to my knowledge...I have not been in a DCB M37R or any other dcb for that matter... i have seen a few videos of you running your cats cash LOL. excellent running attitude! ..were the M37R's the first true tunnel or did they build a few 44's first??? can't remember, but a true deep tunnel is the best rough water style cat is it not?
#83
the older ones do have the pod to my knowledge...I have not been in a DCB M37R or any other dcb for that matter... i have seen a few videos of you running your cats cash LOL. excellent running attitude! ..were the M37R's the first true tunnel or did they build a few 44's first??? can't remember, but a true deep tunnel is the best rough water style cat is it not?
And, thank you, we love it and have really enjoyed the entire build and ownership period.
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I pay less for insurance on my 36/700 inboard cat than you do for your 36/450 outboard cat Joe - declared value and liability limits are probably very comparable. You can't really compare insuring a 170mph inboard cat to a 135mph outboard cat. Insurance costs on mild powered (600-700hp) inboard cats that are similar speeds to the 450 outboard cats are going to be comparable - that is my experience at least. The insurance costs really skyrocket when you start going over 150mph (my 30 was almost uninsurable when it had 800 Sterlings in it and ran 150++). I agree that fuel, maintenance and repair costs are higher on even a light-powered inboard cat, so that better ride is definitely coming at a cost. However, you can buy a used inboard cat for a lot less than a used 400 or 450 outboard cat, so the $100k+ you save on the purchase will go a long way on paying for those higher costs. As for losing your boat to downtime, unless you own spare gearcases for the 400 or 450 rigs, you'll be down as much or more than you will with an inboard cat (assuming it has #6 drives). I can't name a guy with a 400 or 450 rig that hasn't broken multiple propshafts and/or gearcases. In the past 5-6 years (since the 400 and 450 outboard cats have exploded in popularity), there have been numerous more outboard cat accidents than inboard cat accidents (both pleasure and race), so which one is safer has already been proven.
I have 2 400Rs, and 5 450s. Never broke a prop shaft yet but I run pretty easy from what I am told. They have around 1400 hours combined. **Note**-none of my boats have fixed jackplates so I don't come on plane with the same X dimension that run with.
Joe
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This would be the ultimate for me but that's a lot of boat and hardware to maintain and think it's a little too much to use as a regular everyday pleasure boat.
This would be the ultimate for me but that's a lot of boat and hardware to maintain and think it's a little too much to use as a regular everyday pleasure boat.
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Owned my 450 cat for just under 2 years. Sold it in March. Broke 1 lower at about 130 hours. Had spares in the truck so was only down an hour or two. Then stuck #7 piston and threw a rod on other engine at about 155 hours. Took Merc 3 months or so to get the new long block sent out on the engine and 7-8 months to replace the lower. Hearing the new lowers coming out soon are a big improvement. Still have 2 brand new lowers if anyone needs them, haha!
Forgot, The longblock was readily available. We also needed the intake and blower as well and those took some time to get.
Forgot, The longblock was readily available. We also needed the intake and blower as well and those took some time to get.
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