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Put in Bay riots….
Been predicting this for a couple yrs based on what II’ve seen and am not surprised.
Now, how does the local media not call this a race riot??? We will see in the days to come. https://m.facebook.com/search_results/?q=put-in-bay+ohio |
Your link doesn't work. From what I could find, there were 10 fights with 2 people being arrested. 1 arrest was for a domestic violence, and the other disorderly conduct. Curious what you seen that makes this a race riot.
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Police from three localities and swat called in.
Im still reading about it. Research it on face trash. It is real. Several yrs ago, when we docked a boat by the PIB ferry dock on Catawba, I counted 21 empty buses in the local Walmart parking lot w/Mi plates on them. They bring them down from Detroit and send them to to the ferry dock. Send them to the island to throw gas on a fire. Rumor then was, antifa was the motivator, trying to start………, this! News from up there, just reported that a bartender from the strip reported, “they destroyed the village”. This pic is from the town park. If you know the island, thrn you know how bad this is. Can see Mossbacks sign in the background. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cff6078dc3.png |
Ottawa County Sheriff Stephen Levorchick tells WTOL that security personnel with the Jet Express ferry service told deputies they were worried they were about to lose control of the dock.
We hadn’t even left the Jet Express dock before we were called to a fight,” Levorchick tells the Register. “It was fight after fight after fight for a little while.” https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2023...ports-say.html |
Nothing will be done. Modem of operandi for large groups like this. 80s, 90s, and early 00s there were occasional fights at venues like this, but not like we're seeing now. We're quickly, and in some aspects quietly becoming an lawless nation. We've seen what has happened in most major cities, and now the tentacles are reaching out. Appreciate the info.
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We stayed on the island Thursday thru Monday.
Saturday was the worst, walking thru downtown I was disgusted and glad I had a Glock. ...Twerking on top of gold carts , wearing **** that covers nothing .. fat and discusting $hit noone wants to see, that being said the news makes it sound worse than it was or maybe i`m just used to $hitcago violence. The cops will hassle the mom on a golfcart with 2 kids about a red solo cup for open alcohol meanwhile there`s 20 golfcarts with the Detroit Ghetto crew smoking weed and open alcohol like its going out of business. Either the cops a bunch of wossies or they don`t wanna be called racists .. which I get in this everything is racists culture. Bunch of fights but only 2 arrests .. cops werent doing anythiong even thou they brought SWAT from 3 counties.if there`s no consequnces to their actions they aint gonna stop . Nothing close to a riot ... |
Work in the Eastern Market in Detroit, 5 days a week. Normal **** for me LOL.
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Sounds like a bit what South Beach has become........
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The crew from the dock for the Jet Express, reported to the police, “they were afraid they may lose control of their dock due to the number of fights”!
Dont sound like pussies to me. A Cleveland TV news reporter has a friend tending bar at the Bay and reported, on the air, that his friend said,”he’s been there all his life, never seen anything like it and, they destroyed the village!” His words, not mine. And yeah, due the amount of pigment in their skin they are treated different and w/a different rules of engagement and they know it! A couple yrs back when the buses dumped them at the ferry docks, a group raising hell in a golf cart got pulled over and cited. Soon as they got home they ran right to the TV cameras screaming that the PIB police are racist!
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4874664)
We stayed on the island Thursday thru Monday.
Saturday was the worst, walking thru downtown I was disgusted and glad I had a Glock. ...Twerking on top of gold carts , wearing **** that covers nothing .. fat and discusting $hit noone wants to see, that being said the news makes it sound worse than it was or maybe i`m just used to $hitcago violence. The cops will hassle the mom on a golfcart with 2 kids about a red solo cup for open alcohol meanwhile there`s 20 golfcarts with the Detroit Ghetto crew smoking weed and open alcohol like its going out of business. Either the cops a bunch of wossies or they don`t wanna be called racists .. which I get in this everything is racists culture. Bunch of fights but only 2 arrests .. cops werent doing anythiong even thou they brought SWAT from 3 counties.if there`s no consequnces to their actions they aint gonna stop . Nothing close to a riot ... |
Nothing new, per the article below dated 2018.
https://go.tiffinohio.net/2018/11/pu...-from-detroit/ |
WOW! I was just talking to a friend a few days ago about going up there to see the area. I had always heard so much about how nice and neat it is (was) from friends who have vacationed there.
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"destroyed the village" ?
I saw zero damage during the weekend or for the next 2 days after . Fake news. |
Is there a boating event in this area coming up ?
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4874664)
We stayed on the island Thursday thru Monday.
Saturday was the worst, walking thru downtown I was disgusted and glad I had a Glock. ...Twerking on top of gold carts , wearing **** that covers nothing .. fat and discusting $hit noone wants to see, that being said the news makes it sound worse than it was or maybe i`m just used to $hitcago violence. The cops will hassle the mom on a golfcart with 2 kids about a red solo cup for open alcohol meanwhile there`s 20 golfcarts with the Detroit Ghetto crew smoking weed and open alcohol like its going out of business. Either the cops a bunch of wossies or they don`t wanna be called racists .. which I get in this everything is racists culture. Bunch of fights but only 2 arrests .. cops werent doing anythiong even thou they brought SWAT from 3 counties.if there`s no consequnces to their actions they aint gonna stop . Nothing close to a riot ... Like you said, no arrestes, no consequences not going to stop! stop the ferries on certain weekends for maintenance chit needs fixed, they know when it happening. I was told there is another trip planned 9/16. Is that new years eve at the bay? |
Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4874720)
Is there a boating event in this area coming up ?
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4874720)
Is there a boating event in this area coming up ?
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If the govt. would give them guns to go along with their housing, food, and phones then they would self eradicate. The society that we are forced to live within is unbelievable and as noted in previous post the police are wasting their time if these liberal judges are just going to let them go out and do it again.
We see the same thing in Daytona when BCR takes place. It is less then 10% of the people Vs. our two annual motorcycle events and or Nascar events but takes twice the police enforcement, 25 times the amount of arrest, and three times the cost for clean up. The city has finally faced enough heat from citizens and taxpayers that the enforcement is pushing many not to bother attending. The saying "leave on vacation and return on probation" is sinking in. Joe |
Why can't we have something called WTCR?
Originally Posted by JPEROG
(Post 4874731)
If the govt. would give them guns to go along with their housing, food, and phones then they would self eradicate. The society that we are forced to live within is unbelievable and as noted in previous post the police are wasting their time if these liberal judges are just going to let them go out and do it again.
We see the same thing in Daytona when BCR takes place. It is less then 10% of the people Vs. our two annual motorcycle events and or Nascar events but takes twice the police enforcement, 25 times the amount of arrest, and three times the cost for clean up. The city has finally faced enough heat from citizens and taxpayers that the enforcement is pushing many not to bother attending. The saying "leave on vacation and return on probation" is sinking in. Joe |
:waffen093: Animals....
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[QUOTE=Twin O/B Sonic;4874652]Police from three localities and swat called in.
Im still reading about it. Research it on face trash. It is real. Several yrs ago, when we docked a boat by the PIB ferry dock on Catawba, I counted 21 empty buses in the local Walmart parking lot w/Mi plates on them. They bring them down from Detroit and send them to to the ferry dock. Send them to the island to throw gas on a fire. Rumor then was, antifa was the motivator, trying to start………, this! News from up there, just reported that a bartender from the strip reported, “they destroyed the village”. This pic is from the town park. If you know the island, thrn you know how bad this is. Can see Mossbacks sign in the background. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...cff6078dc3.png[ the bus situation is true. had a uber driver tell me onetime they just got off a payed rid to protest for thr 15/15 deal. got lunch and snacks also. |
All these trips are organized and bussed in .
Word on the street is that there is only a few families that run/own a majority of the island, they pushed someone out of that group and the revenge was putting groups of the Detroit Ghetto together for trips knowing they will act like they do. Have no idea if there`s any truth to that but if so that is some good revenge lol |
Serves y'all right, lol! Suck it up and enjoy! Try making some omelettes (or maybe quiche?) with the eggs you nice, good, god-fearing christian folks have been laying for the last few generations. Even if all of these black folks were calm, peaceful and just trying to have a nice time, you still wouldn't want them around messing up your lily white neighbourhoods. Why can they have BCR and we can't have WTCR?? - because, idiot, you ALWAYS had WTCR you just never needed to call it that. Black people have been historically excluded or made to clearly know they were unwelcome at these venues, clubs, organisations, festivals and events; so they had to form their own and now everyone is b--chin' and whining about it. Yeah, yeah - slavery was abolished way back on Dec 18, 1865 so what are they still complaining about? Why can't they behave like "normal" American citizens? Why is there so much welfare dependency and crime? Why why why??? Because, a--holes, "they" have only relatively recently (generationally speaking) been allowed the god-given (roll eyes) constitutional and human rights that y'all good christian folk spend so much time crowing and bleating about.
It wasn't so long ago that young Cassius Clay came home feeling like an American hero after battling his way to an olympic gold medal for his country only to find that back home and proudly wearing his medal he wasn't even allowed to enter a restaurant to celebrate with a steak dinner. And y'all f--king wonder why he rightfully and heroically refused to fight for America in Vietnam?? His story is just one and he was a celebrated Olympic hero at the time. Try for once to imagine what the average black family had to endure. No matter how virtuous and dedicated and hard working you were, doors constantly slammed in your face, forced to accept sub-standard schooling for their kids and victimized atrociously by the very system of law and order that you all are bawling and crying about right now. How many little black kids are all grown up now but remember sitting in the back seat and watching their dads choke back rage with tears rolling down their cheeks after being called "boy" and shooed away from gas stations and motels while trying to enjoy the "great America" and apple pie blah blah blah that you all took for granted. What do you imagine that does to a person? What do you think it did to an entire generation? That ingrained denial of basic rights, lack of acceptance as a normal citizens, denial of economic opportunity and the rewards for being good, honest and hard working has created a separate sub-culture with a totally different perspective on what it means to be an American. Dark skin bothered your eyes so you wanted to keep them down and separated and away from all the nice golf courses and restaurants and neighbourhoods but they didn't disappear. You ended up with what you wanted; a segregated society with whites on one side and blacks on the other. Problem now is y'all never realized both sides have to exist in the same space. So go ahead with all the canned responses and the usual tropes and lines. Your asses are the ones munching on the grass you planted. Bon appetit mo' fo's :hitfan: |
What's BCR and WTCR?
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Originally Posted by Tropical Buzz
(Post 4874761)
Serves y'all right, lol! Suck it up and enjoy! Try making some omelettes (or maybe quiche?) with the eggs you nice, good, god-fearing christian folks have been laying for the last few generations. Even if all of these black folks were calm, peaceful and just trying to have a nice time, you still wouldn't want them around messing up your lily white neighbourhoods. Why can they have BCR and we can't have WTCR?? - because, idiot, you ALWAYS had WTCR you just never needed to call it that. Black people have been historically excluded or made to clearly know they were unwelcome at these venues, clubs, organisations, festivals and events; so they had to form their own and now everyone is b--chin' and whining about it. Yeah, yeah - slavery was abolished way back on Dec 18, 1865 so what are they still complaining about? Why can't they behave like "normal" American citizens? Why is there so much welfare dependency and crime? Why why why??? Because, a--holes, "they" have only relatively recently (generationally speaking) been allowed the god-given (roll eyes) constitutional and human rights that y'all good christian folk spend so much time crowing and bleating about.
It wasn't so long ago that young Cassius Clay came home feeling like an American hero after battling his way to an olympic gold medal for his country only to find that back home and proudly wearing his medal he wasn't even allowed to enter a restaurant to celebrate with a steak dinner. And y'all f--king wonder why he rightfully and heroically refused to fight for America in Vietnam?? His story is just one and he was a celebrated Olympic hero at the time. Try for once to imagine what the average black family had to endure. No matter how virtuous and dedicated and hard working you were, doors constantly slammed in your face, forced to accept sub-standard schooling for their kids and victimized atrociously by the very system of law and order that you all are bawling and crying about right now. How many little black kids are all grown up now but remember sitting in the back seat and watching their dads choke back rage with tears rolling down their cheeks after being called "boy" and shooed away from gas stations and motels while trying to enjoy the "great America" and apple pie blah blah blah that you all took for granted. What do you imagine that does to a person? What do you think it did to an entire generation? That ingrained denial of basic rights, lack of acceptance as a normal citizens, denial of economic opportunity and the rewards for being good, honest and hard working has created a separate sub-culture with a totally different perspective on what it means to be an American. Dark skin bothered your eyes so you wanted to keep them down and separated and away from all the nice golf courses and restaurants and neighbourhoods but they didn't disappear. You ended up with what you wanted; a segregated society with whites on one side and blacks on the other. Problem now is y'all never realized both sides have to exist in the same space. So go ahead with all the canned responses and the usual tropes and lines. Your asses are the ones munching on the grass you planted. Bon appetit mo' fo's :hitfan: Nobody gives a crap about skin color. It's the behavior we have a problem with. For whatever reason, there aren't many black people in the boating lifestyle. But, you know what happens when a black family rolls into a cove full of boaters? The bumpers come out. The ropes come out. And we tie up the same as with anybody else. Just. Stop. Thanks. Brad. |
Originally Posted by Tropical Buzz
(Post 4874761)
Serves y'all right, lol! Suck it up and enjoy! Try making some omelettes (or maybe quiche?) with the eggs you nice, good, god-fearing christian folks have been laying for the last few generations. Even if all of these black folks were calm, peaceful and just trying to have a nice time, you still wouldn't want them around messing up your lily white neighbourhoods. Why can they have BCR and we can't have WTCR?? - because, idiot, you ALWAYS had WTCR you just never needed to call it that. Black people have been historically excluded or made to clearly know they were unwelcome at these venues, clubs, organisations, festivals and events; so they had to form their own and now everyone is b--chin' and whining about it. Yeah, yeah - slavery was abolished way back on Dec 18, 1865 so what are they still complaining about? Why can't they behave like "normal" American citizens? Why is there so much welfare dependency and crime? Why why why??? Because, a--holes, "they" have only relatively recently (generationally speaking) been allowed the god-given (roll eyes) constitutional and human rights that y'all good christian folk spend so much time crowing and bleating about.
It wasn't so long ago that young Cassius Clay came home feeling like an American hero after battling his way to an olympic gold medal for his country only to find that back home and proudly wearing his medal he wasn't even allowed to enter a restaurant to celebrate with a steak dinner. And y'all f--king wonder why he rightfully and heroically refused to fight for America in Vietnam?? His story is just one and he was a celebrated Olympic hero at the time. Try for once to imagine what the average black family had to endure. No matter how virtuous and dedicated and hard working you were, doors constantly slammed in your face, forced to accept sub-standard schooling for their kids and victimized atrociously by the very system of law and order that you all are bawling and crying about right now. How many little black kids are all grown up now but remember sitting in the back seat and watching their dads choke back rage with tears rolling down their cheeks after being called "boy" and shooed away from gas stations and motels while trying to enjoy the "great America" and apple pie blah blah blah that you all took for granted. What do you imagine that does to a person? What do you think it did to an entire generation? That ingrained denial of basic rights, lack of acceptance as a normal citizens, denial of economic opportunity and the rewards for being good, honest and hard working has created a separate sub-culture with a totally different perspective on what it means to be an American. Dark skin bothered your eyes so you wanted to keep them down and separated and away from all the nice golf courses and restaurants and neighbourhoods but they didn't disappear. You ended up with what you wanted; a segregated society with whites on one side and blacks on the other. Problem now is y'all never realized both sides have to exist in the same space. So go ahead with all the canned responses and the usual tropes and lines. Your asses are the ones munching on the grass you planted. Bon appetit mo' fo's :hitfan: |
Originally Posted by Eddienel
(Post 4874770)
Oh cry me a river. What a joke. News flash. Blacks hate blacks more than anyone. They can’t kill each other fast enough and you think we want to hang out with them?lol. I grew up in the ghettos and went to all black schools. They are not racist they are bigots(look up the difference). The white kids were attacked every day at school. Even the loser black bums would curse us and throw beer and cigarettes on us if we got too close to the barbed wire fence. All you’re doing is making excuses for your animalistic behavior. Stop making excuses.
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Originally Posted by Tropical Buzz
(Post 4874773)
lol! News flash - I'm not crying - I'm laughing. My animalistic behavior? I'm fortunate enough not to have grown up as a second class citizen in America. I grew up in the 60's and given the way things were in the US in those days, you'd probably be spot on correct. Though I consider myself to be a fairly comfortable and happy person, under those conditions, I probably would have become a bit of an animal - and a damn bad one at that, lol! So the angry black kids cursed you and threw cigarette butts at you? Poor fella - I really do feel sorry for you, but at least be thankful you weren't mutilated and lynched at a church picnic for being a mischievous kid and whistling at a white woman or set upon by police dogs for wandering into the wrong area. Poor lil' fella though - you really had it rough. Want a hug? Boo hoo hoo
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Originally Posted by Eddienel
(Post 4874774)
So you’re saying I should pay for something I didn’t do to someone I don’t know? That we all should pay for something we didn’t do to someone 100 years ago? Im sorry. I don’t see what any of that has to do with me or my family or friends. Maybe those people should be more appreciative that people aren’t doing that anymore in the US. My adopted niece from Ethiopia had her mother kidnapped and murdered and her fathers arm chopped off by gorilla fighters (also known as slave traders). This happed 20 years ago. My aunt and uncle did mission work in Ethiopia and adopted her. She is black and hates most American blacks. Why you ask? Because she knows the truth and appreciates the gift of living in the United States. She is now a beautiful productive young woman with 2 beautiful children but i promise you she will never forget……
BTW - your beautiful productive black adopted niece can afford to appreciate the gift of living in the United States because she got to live in a different United States than the one all those Black Americans she hates were forced to grow up in. If she was a black kid in the US in 1961, how different do you think her perspective would be? What truth does she know - black people are evil and in your words "animalistic"? So what is she white now? And so you promise me she will never forget... yet the "other" black folks have to forget all the generations of atrocities and abuse that they endured...? Not gonna happen. |
Originally Posted by Tropical Buzz
(Post 4874779)
I never said anything about reparations. Nor did I say that any single decent, honest white person in the US should be held accountable for the sins of your ancestors. You have to however acknowledge that a large percentage of the wealth and prosperity of the nation that you benefit from came from the labor of slaves who - even after being freed - were denied those same benefits until very recently, setting entire generations of American citizens several steps behind with only a few heavily criticized and poorly executed "affirmative action" programs to help them catch up. All I suggest is that people on both sides exercise a bit of empathy and historical introspection before having a typical knee jerk reaction to the current state of affairs and attributing everything a person does to the color of their skin. History and context are far more important in determining what kind of human beings a given society will produce. And - you have no way of knowing this - but I get into similar arguments with black people who make similar blanket judgements about white people and the motives behind their behaviors and actions. For the record, I'm strongly in favor of mutual respect and law and order. I don't support anti-social behavior and lawlessness and I am a shooting enthusiast and CCW holder (threw that last one in just to mess with your stereotypes, lol!) I understand why American whites are fed up with the race-blame thing but American whites also need to understand why American black culture has evolved the way it has. It's a two way street and sadly it isn't going to change anytime soon.
BTW - your beautiful productive black adopted niece can afford to appreciate the gift of living in the United States because she got to live in a different United States than the one all those Black Americans she hates were forced to grow up in. If she was a black kid in the US in 1961, how different do you think her perspective would be? What truth does she know - black people are evil and in your words "animalistic"? So what is she white now? And so you promise me she will never forget... yet the "other" black folks have to forget all the generations of atrocities and abuse that they endured...? Not gonna happen. |
America voted for a black President ... TWICE! and here you are pulling the race and victim card.
Nobody gives a $hit these days about your skin color but you will be judged on your behavior. Black men are 6% on the population but cause 51% of the crimes.Why is that ? Ever been in a nice safe black neighborhood, me neither, why is that ? Black kids that do good in school are called uncle toms, family structure is gone but it`s all our fault, or 200 years ago some was a slave ? these excuses don`t hold water . As an imigrant we came here with nothing and didn`t speak the language, worked our asses off to get to where we are but I digress , Ill just go back to working my ass off daily so that the government can redistribute my tax dollars to people that dont wanna work.. Gotta love that white priveledge |
Originally Posted by Eddienel
(Post 4874784)
Of course not. You’re not going to forget because it’s a crutch. An excuse to behave the way you do. I hate to brake this to you but we don’t all get to live in the big house. Every race of human being was a slave at some point and let’s not even go to how my Jewish brothers and sisters were treated. For some reason they are strong people that were able to rise up and grow and move on. Let’s look at Tokyo after the wwII. They built it back even better and moved on. Let’s look at Detroit. Ok let’s not. Yes I know. It’s my fault it looks the way that it does. The whole continent of Africa they do not produce or manufacture anything. The only manufacturing that takes places comes from other countries setting up factories there. The word slave comes from the word Slav. Slavs or Slavic people are white. Slavery my friend is alive and well and isn’t going anywhere. It was around before Jesus and isn’t going anywhere. When Jesus was on earth he healed the sick. He didn’t free slaves. Just saying…
You're trying hard to push the narrative that Africa is the way it is because black people are inferior and uncivilised. Let's look closer to home at Haiti - generally considered to be the ****hole of the western hemisphere - another black nation that can't keep itself together. The truth is that Haiti freed itself from slavery long before abolition, built up their defences and successfully resisted all attempts to be retaken by the colonial powers of the day. Because of its location and wealth, the British and French were forced to give up and pretend to accept Haiti's independence and lured their leader to a diplomatic meeting. They used deceit and treachery to lure Toussaint L'Ouverture to a meeting and clapped him in chains on his arrival. Haiti remained defiant and independent however but even after the Atlantic slave trade was abolished, the European powers insisted that they remain the property of France and that in exchange for sovereignty they would have to pay France back for the compounded value of their "losses" from the Haitian rebellion. Haiti turned to the US - certain that the young nation which had also freed itself from the colonial yoke would be sympathetic and supportive, but no. The bigger fear in the American government who still maintained its domestic slave industry, was the dangerous message of successful slave uprising and rebellion. Haiti - a black independent nation - could not be allowed to succeed. And so the strong, prosperous and wealthy island nation that stood to become the first independent black nation in the region was systematically squashed and starved by trade embargos until they were forced to capitulate and agree to pay the reparations to France out of their GDP over time. With the support of the colonial powers including the US, Haiti was reduced to an unsustainable shell of a nation with the lion's share of it's wealth once again going into the European coffers. Puppet government dictators were set up and supported one after the other and we all now see the result. So while you sit back and smugly declare black people incapable of civilized society you happily turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to the impact of the carving up of the world by the colonial powers post slavery and again after each major war with no other motivation in mind than their own strategic interests and access to mineral and other resources. Look at the differences between the different states in the Middle East. Despotic puppet dictators like the Shah of Iran set up and supported by the US at great cost to the people. Look at Cuba under the US supported Batista dictatorship before the revolution - I've done enough typing - look it up yourselves and look at the way the combined economic might of the US and its European allies have f-cked over, manipulated and destroyed entire countries for their own economic and strategic interests. Look right in your own back yards at the remnants of the once proud and free Native American tribes languishing on reservations pacified with casino licences and other tidbits to keep them quiet. You resent being called a racist but here you are using your view of Africa to justify your prejudices. Every race and culture has endured slavery at one time in their history blah blah f-cking blah. Fact is the recent Atlantic slave trade is what set the western world up the way it is now and turning around and dismissing it and its ongoing legacy of wealth and social disparity as nothing more than a crutch or a lame excuse for not being successful just makes you wilfully myopic and full of ****. So go ahead - throw out some more typical racist crap and pacify yourself that your life is better than those other folks' because you're just plain born better than them. Keep ignoring reality while the problem grows and festers around you. Me - I'll laugh every single time I hear people like you *****ing and griping about black folks showing up in your once white only little enclaves and spoiling your fun. Eat it. |
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4874789)
America voted for a black President ... TWICE! and here you are pulling the race and victim card.
Nobody gives a $hit these days about your skin color but you will be judged on your behavior. Black men are 6% on the population but cause 51% of the crimes.Why is that ? Ever been in a nice safe black neighborhood, me neither, why is that ? Black kids that do good in school are called uncle toms, family structure is gone but it`s all our fault, or 200 years ago some was a slave ? these excuses don`t hold water . As an imigrant we came here with nothing and didn`t speak the language, worked our asses off to get to where we are but I digress , Ill just go back to working my ass off daily so that the government can redistribute my tax dollars to people that dont wanna work.. Gotta love that white priveledge You can't see how historical denial of access to equality in education, job and career opportunities and even access to justice and basic status as a human being can influence a distinct and visible minority group to develop different attitudes about respect for the institutions of government and law and order? That all happened in the past but you can't see that the people who lived under those conditions are still alive and passing their experiences and resulting attitudes down the generational ladder? You can't see how black kids being forced to recite the pledge of allegiance in their crappy, sub-standard schools while black people were not allowed to vote, eat in most restaurants or drink from public water fountains would create an ingrained cynicism about society and its institutions? - one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all - what a load of bull**** that must've been to someone living the reality of life as a black person in the US. You can't see how that bile and resentment combined with a total lack of faith in the idea of equal reward for equal effort, combined with little to no opportunity to prosper would lead to antisocial attitudes and contribute to an increase in crime? You choose to see my side of the argument as making excuses for criminal behavior and welfare dependency and all the other ills you attribute to black people. I'm just pointing out that the reality is not just a matter of telling people to behave themselves. The answer lies in acknowledging what he real problems are and finding workable solutions. I'm not sure if seeing dead folks is a problem for you or not but you clearly demonstrate the ability to see things exactly how it suits you to see them, so I'm guessing you're going to be just fine. Congratulations on working your way to success by the way. You have every right to be proud. |
The more Ridiculous Schit I see going on in this Country affirms my reasons why I never Ever want to leave Naples Florida.
The first little Phucker Phuckin around in this town is in the back of a Squad car within 5 minutes |
Originally Posted by Tropical Buzz
(Post 4874798)
You can see dead people but you can't see how the impact of post-slavery discrimination and generations of institutionalized denial of basic human and constitutional rights would have a negative impact on how a distinct segment of society grows and functions in contrast to another majority group that suffered none of those setbacks?
You can't see how historical denial of access to equality in education, job and career opportunities and even access to justice and basic status as a human being can influence a distinct and visible minority group to develop different attitudes about respect for the institutions of government and law and order? That all happened in the past but you can't see that the people who lived under those conditions are still alive and passing their experiences and resulting attitudes down the generational ladder? You can't see how black kids being forced to recite the pledge of allegiance in their crappy, sub-standard schools while black people were not allowed to vote, eat in most restaurants or drink from public water fountains would create an ingrained cynicism about society and its institutions? - one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all - what a load of bull**** that must've been to someone living the reality of life as a black person in the US. You can't see how that bile and resentment combined with a total lack of faith in the idea of equal reward for equal effort, combined with little to no opportunity to prosper would lead to antisocial attitudes and contribute to an increase in crime? You choose to see my side of the argument as making excuses for criminal behavior and welfare dependency and all the other ills you attribute to black people. I'm just pointing out that the reality is not just a matter of telling people to behave themselves. The answer lies in acknowledging what he real problems are and finding workable solutions. I'm not sure if seeing dead folks is a problem for you or not but you clearly demonstrate the ability to see things exactly how it suits you to see them, so I'm guessing you're going to be just fine. Congratulations on working your way to success by the way. You have every right to be proud. Your side of the argument *IS* excuses. Nothing more. The end. There is literally nothing keeping anybody from being as successful as they choose to pursue. NOTHING. Get off you ass and get to work. That's it. You're suffering from the delusion that the plight of the black community is anything other than self-inflected. Here's a suggestion: Stop raising your kids to be thugs and they will stop growing up to be thugs. Stop raising your kids to be victims and they will grow up to be self-empowered, independent and successful. Stop kneecapping them across the breakfast table and they will no longer need the crutch your parents kneecapped you with. You are the product of the Democrat Plantation Party's victimhood industry, and they are getting rich off your whining. What happened over this last weekend is why people don't want to hire you, let you into their stores or send their kids to school with yours. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin or any historical baggage this country has. It has to do with the fact that you keep proving our fears and prejudices correct, and then come on a public forum and defend it as if it's acceptable. I can't begin to tell you how much you are part of the problem, rather than the solution you think you are. I'll say it again. Stroll into a cove with the rest of us, and act like the rest of us, and you'll be greeted like the rest of us, with bumpers and tie-off ropes. But, stroll in with an entitled attitude, acting like the world owes you something for being a little darker in skin tone, and you'll be anchored off by yourself. Thanks. Brad. |
The term “self fulfilling prophecy” comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
(Post 4874810)
Tropical Buzz,
Your side of the argument *IS* excuses. Nothing more. The end. There is literally nothing keeping anybody from being as successful as they choose to pursue. NOTHING. Get off you ass and get to work. That's it. You're suffering from the delusion that the plight of the black community is anything other than self-inflected. Here's a suggestion: Stop raising your kids to be thugs and they will stop growing up to be thugs. Stop raising your kids to be victims and they will grow up to be self-empowered, independent and successful. Stop kneecapping them across the breakfast table and they will no longer need the crutch your parents kneecapped you with. You are the product of the Democrat Plantation Party's victimhood industry, and they are getting rich off your whining. What happened over this last weekend is why people don't want to hire you, let you into their stores or send their kids to school with yours. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin or any historical baggage this country has. It has to do with the fact that you keep proving our fears and prejudices correct, and then come on a public forum and defend it as if it's acceptable. I can't begin to tell you how much you are part of the problem, rather than the solution you think you are. I'll say it again. Stroll into a cove with the rest of us, and act like the rest of us, and you'll be greeted like the rest of us, with bumpers and tie-off ropes. But, stroll in with an entitled attitude, acting like the world owes you something for being a little darker in skin tone, and you'll be anchored off by yourself. Thanks. Brad. Onwards and forward... |
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Originally Posted by Brad Christy
(Post 4874810)
Tropical Buzz,
Your side of the argument *IS* excuses. Nothing more. The end. There is literally nothing keeping anybody from being as successful as they choose to pursue. NOTHING. Get off you ass and get to work. That's it. You're suffering from the delusion that the plight of the black community is anything other than self-inflected. Here's a suggestion: Stop raising your kids to be thugs and they will stop growing up to be thugs. Stop raising your kids to be victims and they will grow up to be self-empowered, independent and successful. Stop kneecapping them across the breakfast table and they will no longer need the crutch your parents kneecapped you with. You are the product of the Democrat Plantation Party's victimhood industry, and they are getting rich off your whining. What happened over this last weekend is why people don't want to hire you, let you into their stores or send their kids to school with yours. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin or any historical baggage this country has. It has to do with the fact that you keep proving our fears and prejudices correct, and then come on a public forum and defend it as if it's acceptable. I can't begin to tell you how much you are part of the problem, rather than the solution you think you are. I'll say it again. Stroll into a cove with the rest of us, and act like the rest of us, and you'll be greeted like the rest of us, with bumpers and tie-off ropes. But, stroll in with an entitled attitude, acting like the world owes you something for being a little darker in skin tone, and you'll be anchored off by yourself. Thanks. Brad. |
Originally Posted by Tropical Buzz
(Post 4874843)
Brad - you're projecting stereotypes a bit. I've said repeatedly that I do *NOT* support random violence, crime, and antisocial behavior. You're ASSuming I'm black and therefore I must be lazy, violent, angry, entitled and in a state of perpetual victimhood and that I'm raising my kids to be the same. I repeat - I am not American. I grew up in a strong, loving and supportive family environment and while like everyone else, I've faced my share of challenges and ups and downs, I have nothing but gratitude for the life that I have been able to live so far. I lived and worked in North America for 17 years and had a great experience overall with many lifelong friendships - most of them are white by the way. Yes - I had a (very, very) few run-ins with overt racism but those were by far the exception rather than the norm and the sort of idiots involved generally tended to have their own sets of issues and got into conflicts with all sorts of people. My father was a military man and believed in discipline and hard work and self-sufficiency, but above all else he loved and cherished his family. So no - I'm not not part of "the problem" nor do I see myself as having any kind of solution. I do agree with you about politics being a major contributing factor - but with me it's not only the extreme left / Al Sharpton style of pandering and profiting from keeping black people in a state of perceived victimhood; it's the extreme wings of BOTH parties callously pandering to negative attitudes and paradigms of their respective bases so they can cling to power without a shred of care or regard for actually changing or improving anything. I actually feel bad locking horns with you because outside of this entrenched-stake, polarized type of discussion, I sense that you're a decent man and that we'd agree about most things as long as we stay away from politics and probably religion as well.
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