The only uncle of Ben's I knew was David Portnoy. Muriel Portnoy was the secretary at Apache.

interesting thread guys...

i cannot read what yall dont type. keep it coming...

Mike Portnoy is the drummer for Dream Theater.

and which "agency" are you with?

agency?? i enjoyed the thread and have always wanted to read the books yall talk about, but never gone through the process of obtaining one and sitting down to it...

so, i asked for more just as it seems that everyone does when they keep this thread at the top.

i have been following it too

I went to high school with Richard Portnoy, Ben's cousin. The two of us were involved in a big fight with the jocks, and I got kicked out of school for "Inciting a riot". Later on, Richard was Ben's PR guy at Apache, and like I said, Muriel, his mom, was the secretary there. Back then, it was like a family. Seems like one the first boats we made was an Aronow 39' Squadren mold that we bought from Don. We altered the transom angle, modified the hatches, and changed some other stuff. Saccenti thought it would make a great rough water race boat. Muriel developed cancer, and in the end she stayed with my wife a lot. David was a great guy, and Muriel was like the mom at Apache. This was early on, before any of the really bad stuff happened, and it was a whole new world to me. Everybody was excited about racing and working to do something good in the race world.

Hey RonP - I suspect that it wasn't the warden who said no - probably a much higher authority was behind the decision. Shame all the same. Would make for a very interesting read.

Gen Kramers uncle by marriage was Meyer Lanskey