jeeesh...al I asked for was a link to a source backing up his claim that 1% of Iraqi arms were supplied by the US

There was 2 billion that Iraq defaulted on after we became enemys...How can 2 billion be less than 1%....

You ignore the request for a source....and go into a rant about Iran...and the Shah...in 79

Al'Quaida wasn't founded for another 10 years

spin me some more propaganda

How about that link to a source about the "less than 1%"

The question that PISSES me off the most is ---- Why when Clinton was bombing Iraq their wasn't any protesting. I have yet to here a liberal answer it. Why is it that when clinton was in office he was for the removal (regime change) of Suddam and now he is against it. What has changed. Clinton said that if Suddam wasnt removed from power and the WMD destroyed it would become a problem. He also knew that he couldn't get the UN to help so he didn't even ask (the only smart thing the man ever did)

SC--- why don't you prove him wrong--You act like the resident expert here ---You should be able to prove him wrong. (If he is) I will put my money on him not you since I tend to think that his IQ is at least one notch higher than yours just from reading his posts. I personally would love to meet him in person and have a talk.

Hash

I should of included a third option now that I read some of your rantings.

http://kids.msn.com/kids/dept.aspx?i...ent/learnread/

Here is a link (you asked) to help with your reading dis-function

Thats what I thought...Your claim is bogus

Here is the real story..

In 82 Reagan pulled Iraq off the list of states that sponser terrorism (not Carter)..

That opened the flood gates..
we sold them billions in weapons(not less than 1%)

60 Huges MD 500 "defender" Helicopters
48 Bell Textron helicopters
8 Bell Textron AB 212 helicopters
infared sensors and thermal imagery technology

After the Gulf War...The IAEA found equiptment for making nuclear weapons...including..spectrometers, oscilloscopes, neutron initators, high speedd switches for nuclear detonation

This is just the tipp of the iceberg

This is MY proof


Your proof is a kids website....reminds me of the Bush/Blair "proof"

Watched a debate last night with Ron Silver ( the actor) - he is a republican- Wow I hated this guy for the roles he plays but not anymore -- WOW this guy really impressed me. I don't remember the name of the Liberal he was debating against. But it was the same liberal crap and not answering the direct questions. These guys just wont answer a direct question that doesn't fit into their lies.

Tinker " these guys just won't answer a direct question that doesn't fit into thier lies"

This sounds like Steve1

He bothered me for a answer...I gave him one ...and gave him proof that he is wrong

I asked for the source he was quoting as "less than 1%"

He posted a childs site

I posted even more proof...What iI posted are FACTS

He is off playing in romper room now

Less than 1%....what a outrageous claim...

You are talking to the wrong guy ---I tend to believe him. I have read plenty of what you have to offer and it was funny reading. It was funny that you and others actually believe that crap.

American analogy,

If you give your kid a bb gun and he shoots the neighbor's cat, you take back the gun and punish the child. If Saddom shoots the neighborhood and threatens the world peace, send in the 101st.

good one..

you believe him...He posted one link...to a kids website

I posted links with names like...
Washington post
Washington times
The White House
The DOW Jones
The Bureau of Labour
the IAEA
LA times
BBC

He posted 1 link to a kids website

"I tend to believe him"

I backed up evey claim with sources

He goes on a rant about Iran...PRE Al'Quaida...and blames Carter for 9-11 , and wants him held responsible.

You can believe him if you want...and you can believe in Santa and the tooth fairy if you want

I declare Cashmoney the winner by default

By Fault

HISTORY SON HISTORY

History...?

I KNOW history

I have been watching steve1 for awhile now...He is ALWAYS spewing propaganda...

And he had it coming...I had to slam dunk him and expose his agenda..

He posted 20 times on this thread...all bull...even his 1 link to a childs website

can you discredit anything that I posted....?


Thats what I thought

History...

Steve1's days of spewing propaganda are history


Thats what is History

i am wondering something...

how many of us population is thinking the same with casmoney?
how many with steve 1?

Timucin...The reason Tinker believes Steve1 is because his views are the same as his...it has nothing to do with facts

It doesn't change the fact that my posts are accurate

this is a boating forum but i would love to see the results on a poll. cause i reaily reaily wonder what us-citizens think? how much do they know?

FACTS ARE ALL THE REASON
Your idea of the facts or my idea of them.
You are a liberal and I am conservative.
I think that big government is bad and you think it is good.
I think that the liberal way of thinking is flawed and blind to the true facts. You keep spouting your facts but those facts are coming from the press ( in most cases -LIBERAL-) Show us some facts that aren't from the press. The facts can be read the same as the BIBLE. Everyone has a different idea of what was said.
I tend to believe the conservative side. BUT I am open to other opinions as long as they don't come from the press or other one sided literature.

Cash you are truly an Idiot in the early 80's we had to confront the Carter Iran (and still do today)

You have a reading problem and I was trying to help is all! I Figured the link would be of befit to you!

Guys let cash go shopping as stated in his or her main interest and let him or her wait eagerly for the next welfare check of $309 next 3rd of the month. Heck he or she can't even spring $25 to see pictures here let him or her spiral into his or her own delusion.

"You can put pumps on a jackass but it still is a jackass"

Cash
 

I ususualy wouldn't reply to a windbag such as yourself.. But sitting here reading your trash makes me want to choke the $hit out of you .. Im curious what your ethnic background is ?

Gash
Look the main suppliers of the Iraqis were the Russians and Chinese with some North Korean munitions also. Like $.25 hand grenades.

While swimming at an Ex Iraqi fortified Island I saw that all the anti aircraft Ammo there came from Jordan!!Gee not America !!

most of the Iraqi equipment I saw in Kuwait was Chinese made as a matter of fact I had a Restroom/urinal that I used on the Saudi Highway that was a blasted Chinese tank that I pissed on not an American tank gee wizz!!

So pull what few brain cells you have together and think a little before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

The 24 chopper's they sent with commandos to kill the Kuwaiti Emir all Russian not an American piece in sight..

the Iraqis had the 4'th largest military power at the time that would be in the hundreds of billions I would imagine.

Hate to break your bubble but us Bad Americans were small players while your heros the Russians and Chinese were the real suppliers along with the French and Germans.

Timucin
Now that we are not going to start a northern front from turkey at your government's's request (we did not need one before)

when the Iraqi army gets driven north... who is going to help you guys??

May be time to go boating!

steve1 ;
thnx for thinking about us but dont worry ,our goverment and army which is the biggest in both europe and asia is very experienced with war.

by the way, thats the reason why i am trying to make a fast boat.
to run faster.....LOL
;)

Cash, the problem with your info is that in the past you have blantanly disregarded the truth, time and time again. Additionally, I have a hard time beleiving much of what the NY or LA Times or the Washington Post say about anything political. They themselves will tell you they are hard core liberal. JUst watch CNN....if you pay attention to what is actually happpening then watch CNN there is a slant that should be ILLEGAL!! It's unreal, the truth is constantly misrepesented by you guys, over and over and over.....

I know nothing about arms deals in the 80's nor do I care. The world has changed so much from that time. Deals were created with allies who are now enemies. Look at your own life, how much it has changed in 20 years....then throw worldly politics into the mix. I don't claim to be a political expert, I claim to be reality and practical expert.

Here is what I do know however, the hard left people generally misrespresent the truth and use scare tactics, lies and utopian idealism (which is horribly impractical) to urge their message. IT's a true shame. The democratic party of the 60's would have never put up with these tyrants and murdering dictators like Sudamm. JFK would have de-cleated this guy on Sept 12th-01. For whatever reason the dem party has gradually become so liberal that they are teetering on socialism. It's very confusing to try to figure out why or what happened. It's really sad. They are losing touch with the principles of our great nation.

We all want world peace. We all want to rid the earth of disease and crime and neglect. We all wish that people in our country were not killed everyday driving to and from work, and that children were not kidnapped daily, never to be seen again. We wish all these things, but the sad truth is THAT IS NOT REALITY. Sometimes you are faced with things you wish you could bypass or ignore (like Clinton sdid with Bin Laden), but that is not reality....that is not what men do, that is not right. You have to fight evil, especially when it threatens your family and freedoms.

Say what you want about Steve1, he is one of the most traveled and worldly educated members we have. I am glad he is here to share his experiences and tell it like it is.

Cash, you lost most of your credibility with me when you compared Bush to Sudamm. When people think on that level, they are not operating within the realms of reality. I still respect you as an OSO member, but that one really hurt you.

Allan:)

Where is my very backward friend mash at ??? Come on buddy I would like to hear some of your life's experience's.

I'll bet ole fifth column Mash has had some exciting eperances in the welfare line..

And in the Rosenberg remembrance foundation.

oops last minute: turkish goverment is behaving very greedy in this situation . i am not defending them.

Allen...You will care about the Chemical and biological weapons that were sold to Saddam in the 80's when they are used on our troops in this war

Iraqgate did happen

Iran/Contra did happen

Both under the watch of Bush Sr.

Iran/Contra did happen By Al Cash ........ WOW Ok I'll Play

Iran Contra
KGB documents prove how America's worst president betrayed his country by trying to get the Soviets to intervene in two U.S. elections to stop Ronald Reagan. But we have Iran Contra.

--Carter's role in starting the Islamic Jihad by allowing the Shah of Iran to fall -- and beginning more than two decades of international terrorism. But we have Iran Contra ....I used this before but it fits here too

--Carter's actions that led to the murders of dozens of top Iranian military officials. But we have Iran Conta

--Carter's long "blame America first" history, and his support for Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and other radical, abusive regimes that hate the U.S. But we Have Iran Contra

--How Carter claims he is fighting for human rights, but completely ignores abuses in countries like China and North Korea while openly criticizing Israel. But we have Iran Contra

--How Carter cached in on Arab funding. But we have Iran Contra

--The role Jimmy played in Bill Clinton's fiasco in North Korea - one that has led the U.S. to the brink of a new war in Korea. But we have Iran Contra

--How his desperate quest for recognition has hindered, rather than promoted, peace. But we have Iran Contra

--How his disastrous betrayal of the Shah of Iran created a Middle East nightmare that plagues the U.S. to this day. But we have Iran Contra

--The real reason that anti-American Scandinavians handed him the Nobel Peace Prize, and how Carter actually secretly lobbied for the award But we have Iran Contra.

us sold or gave both nuclear and biological weapons to iraq and afganistan in cold war dates...
everybody knows this....

after russias crash they also bought/stole these kind of stuff from x-russia
everybody knows this.....

with the ones they took from US + X russia they ate extremely dangerous now....
are we agree with this?

i dont care who was the president at that time but result is they have dangerous amount of weapons for the moment...
am i right with that?

Does that tell you anything...majority rules?

GOOD NEWS!
http://www.powerboatmag.com/breakingnews/story40.php

Thats truly amazing Cat since you most likely have never been right once in your entire life.

Let me Guess your occupation : Weight guesser at the carnival right ???? like in the movie named after you and cash !!!!! well am I right ??? Of course!!:p :p :p :p

stave1: what do you say about the things that i wrote?

Hmmmmmmm that's funny.......I thought Sudamm did not have any chemical or biological weapons....OR the ability to make them himself. I believe very little you say....you are even begining to contradict yourself.........

I don't see any true facts from You guys either. Show us how your facts are more correct. Prove us wrong. Steve1 says he has been there and seen it. Have any of you actually seen the evidence???

Tim on the Afghan thing I am still researching it let you know in a day or two.

I am limited arms dealing knowledge, but I would agree with that Timucin.

ALLLRIIIGGHHTTTTT!!!! I made his s*** list.... :D :D :D

That's okay Cat, I do not try to convince you of anything, I disprove your inaccuraccies and uncover your phallicies so that normal people have a voice and can make their own decisions. I am meerly trying to inform as best I know how....with facts and reality. If I don't know, I will tell you I don't know.

Making sure we keep it real around here....always a challange....HeHeHe........;)

It is so funny how you have a whole group of people that think one way and a very few that think annother-and the few are correct??? FAT CHANCE ---- LETS put it to a vote liberal style and see who is correct. And if they cheat we can vote and count the cards untill it comes out the way we want it to come out.