Steve...I know that the Iraqi population had NOTHING to do with the backdoor dealings that put them in this situation.

We armed Saddam...We supported Saddam even after he gassed his own people...We made Saddam.

Did you forget about this...?

Take a look here.....US ARMED IRAQ

Cash, I am going to try to keep this short because it is not worth wasting time dealing with your nonsense and opinionated, one sided half truths. I knowingly made the mistake of opening your first two links, only to laugh at your sources. I did not even attempt to deal with the other links, waste of time. The first one is a matter of economic principle. Bush was in office 10 minutes and the democrats began to blame the economy on him.....then 9-11. The last 1 1/2 years we have been at war.....now here is the thing, the reason why people are begining to hate the democratic party and all of their absurditiy.....YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW IT IS THIS STUFF.....YOU ARE LIEING, MISREPRESENTING THE TRUTH AND FEAR MONGERING!!!!!! PEOPLE ARE STARING TO SEE THRU THIS CHARADE OF CRAP YOU GUYS PLAY!!!!!! Again....why do you think the democratic party is crumbling? America is getting sick of you guys lieing and carrying on and trying to scare them into beleiving your inaccuracies and propoganda.

As for the stock market on your link, the market went striaght downhill when CLINTON went after Bill Gates (insted of Bin Laden of course.....go after a harmless computer geek, not an international mass murderer). Look up the dates, look up the REAL FACTS, NOT THE "FACTS" THAT YOU PULL OFF OF LEFT WING PROPOGANDA WEBSITES!!!!!!! Typically the market has nothing to do with the office of the President. YOU DEMOCRATS KNOW THIS!!!! However, Clinton made the first step to beach the ship on a market that was bound to correct itself becuase it had reached ridiculous levels of growth. Add a WAR to this and the economics become quite frustrating. AGAIN.....YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW THIS STUFF BUT YOU CONTINUE TO PLACE BLAME ON SOMEONE WHO WAS THE GOVERNER OF TEXAS WHEN THIS WAS ALL TAKING PLACE!!!! LIE AND LIE AND LIE.

Clinton teed off on Gates and the market plunged. Peroid, no debating that.

I did not read the rest of your ignorant laced and hate filled links. If I did I'm sure I could blast them full of holes, as could any reasonable, honest person. You are coming dangeroulsy close to being Anti American. My advice to you is you better not take for granted your rights and freedoms. Maybe you should try a few days in Iraq....my bet is you would not even get off the plane.

Reply with whatever rhetoric and lack of principle you wish, I am done dealing with people who hate my country. Enjoy the ride down......you may learn something as you go.

ALLAN

Trash

No that is bull**** thank your buffoon Mr Carter for the Iraq situtation ;But you fail to answer my question !!!!! you are in here spouting off and I want to hear about your (key word here YOUR) Middle-East experience..
and I am waiting !!

Sean........this is going to be my last post on this thread....I am not going to try and change anyones mind, but I hope that the members that feel this way think about the people of Iraq, Do you think that they spend their free time posting on a boat site and enjoying this great hobby of ours....the majority of these people dont have a computer much less a boat.......this great country of ours has prided itself on doing the right thing or at least trying to do the right thing.......My point is this....we had better be damn careful how we handle this situation because the repercussions are going to be phenomenal......world wide.... how the United States is percieved....we cannot afford to screw this up......there are innocent lives at stake and a cavalier attitude is something we can ill afford......

Spitfire I care about American Lives.

Steve...I have read about the middle east ...Thats about it..

But I Know ALL about American double standards

How did Carter arm Iraq....?

This happened under Reagan/Bush

Cash I would suggest you brush up on your history then come back and we can talk..

Steve you are the one who doesn't know his history...

When did the WMD get transered to Saddam....?

I feel you are somewhat accurate, but remember why this part of the world is in such disarray and living like it is the 19th century. They do not choose this, they do not enjoy this, they live in fear and are ruled by a murdering, raping tyrant, (WHO ACCORDING TO CASHMONEY IS BETTER THAN OUR OWN PRESIDENT.....TRAITOR!!)This is not much different than the other times we removed evil from the world and set up democracy and freedom for the people in their own homeland. Same concerns everytime, the possible repercussions and such. You are correct. Infact, had the UN not gotten in the way in 1991, we would have removed Sudamm then. Instead we took the"diplomatic" route....look where that got us. One repurcussion you forgot to include is the loss of 1,000's of American's, past and future.

I agree with you, this needs to be done correctly, but to do nothing is the worst option....and most dangerous for us AND them. You gotta keep the good of #1 in mind. No one wants innocent people killed, but we already have lost 3,037 innocent people......more will come, just a matter of time...DOESN'T THAT CONCERN YOU?

Go talk to the people in New York who watched INNOCENT civilians make a conscious decision to jump to their death, go talk to the families who said goodbye to their INNOCENT Daddy on a cell phone right before his plane went nose first at probably 600mph into the Pennsylvania ground, go talk to the parents of the INNOCENT military personel whose office recieved a visit from a 767 one morning............Next time......that kid, parent or freind who cries as the news covers the tradegy of a lost loved one just might be you. We all need to ponder that as we form opinions about what is TRULY at stake. Our freedom is TRULY at stake......to me, that is MUCH more important than what some socialist French a-hole thinks of my US of A. They used our land as a battle ground and people are siting here talking about concern over what the world might think of us.......

God Speed to our troops, leaders and peoples......

Steve....You should look into Iraqgate before you pin this on Carter