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What's the difference between Apache and Cigarette?

Old 06-22-2003, 11:56 AM
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DredgeKing I am doing a log book now will have the Information on the convergence (of Dead rise) the constant running surface, and the rake of the stem. And so forth in the very near future.
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Old 06-22-2003, 12:35 PM
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Payton, In regards to your Super Hawaii 34, You have a great piece of Offshore history. The Boats where originally called "Super Hero" boats until the owner was sued by Marvel Comics. He set out to build the worlds best offshore boat. Spent a fortune on the factory and tooling, The boats actually ran great in the big waves of Hawaii. Scott Williams who at times pokes his nose in this site knows alot about the boat, the owner, and the company history. The whole story (as most in boating) are worth sitting down with a cold one and listening to. The last Super Hawaii 34 I saw was rotting away in Hawaii Kia Marina on Oahu. Cashbrain should get his hands on it for his next resurrection! Hang on to that boat, it is a great piece of history!
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Old 06-22-2003, 02:13 PM
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To the best of my recollection. (20+ years ago may have diminished the memory as to exact dates)

Original 37'6" (Ajac Hawk etal) was from plugged 39 mold. The transom angle was reduced to 11 degrees which was normal for race boats at that time to reduce wear on joints between the drive and the tail stock assembly. A replacement boat was made for the Ajac Hawk out of the 39 mold sometime late 82/83.

38' Top Gun was new mold derived from the 39 mold as well. Rear deck gunnel was raised 4" to 6" to clear then Hawk 500's that had Dominator Carbs and large flame arrestors so that they could have a flat hatch with sun cushion. This was a design change by Jerry Burton and Jerry Jacoby when Integrated Resources and Founders Equity owned Cigarette.

39 USA Cat and 41 Apache were derivitives of the 37'6" replacement to the Cigarette Hawk (Ajac Hawk). Hull and deck was never rigged as a race boat and was later rigged by Bob Moore and sold as pleasure boat cir 1985. Both hull molds were built by Mark McManus in the old Signature building (later Tempest and Pantera across from current TNT building).

Smaller USA Cat was an original plug from plywood cir 1984

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