best power package besides Merc?
 

I want opinions on the best power package that is'nt 50 hour power...I am assuming under 800hp I can get about 200 hours. Give me some solid info and prices if you can. Drives will be SSM VI's on a 39' boat.

A few power plants that I have had considered so far:

Teague, Chief, Sterling, and MRD.

I need hard core info about bugs or problems that any of these builders are typically known for...Thanks:cool: :D

See what totalmp can build for you. http://www.totalmap.com

I wonder how Jassby's boat is with the totalmp power?

I'm interested in the 750hp EFI na motor, looks like the best motor for the dollar.

39 feet huh? Epoxy based too?

never mind, I see you already told the story in the outerlimits section. The first 2 had bravos???

Sterling built some big non-supercharged EFI motors for a boat called "On The Prowl", with the intent of getting several hundred hours between rebuilds. Call Sterling and talk to Mike D'Annaballe.

The first one is Petes and will be at the Miami boat show w/525's+bravos. The second one I believe will have 3 525's.

I wanted to originally go with bravos and maybe some Teague power. Now I figure in the long run it will be better to go with VI's if I can find a good package that fits my needs and wallet:cool: :D

If I was going to go with a custom motor builder, I would try to find a reputable one close to where the boat will be. DMAN has Pfaff motors in his boat and seems to be pretty happy with them.

Phaff is producing the most durable pony/engine.

Chief EFI

again no one says Innovation in Sarasota... AWSOME guys to work with... and reliable power that they stand behind!

The boat will be between So Cal and Clear Lake mostly...We do have a few trips planned to FL to visit friends. I feel like a little kid that wants to take his new toy everywhere:p

105, what are the specs on the 39? Sit down, full cabin or half, epoxy, what is the weight? I believe it is a quad step, is it similar to the 37?

I've seen some nice work from PRI (Performance Research Inc.) in Ohio. I have 2 friends running them, they hold up well.

Volvo??? Yanmar?






Really, just kidding.

After my recent balst across Lake Michigan in Ancestoral Spirit, I like the Cheif engines Parnel has in his boat. Ran flawlessly.

suzuki :eureka:


you know you can just go buy some bow tie blocks and have them built in your home town.. there's always a guy around that knows how to do that.. ????? if you don't need the name brand..

Three firends of mine are running Chief and they are perfect - and have been from day 1. One running 850's, one running 650's and one running 950's. Flawless work!!

Spectre with Yanmars = 98+ MPH. B-max'z I think?? awesome fuel economy, but it does sound a bit weird at the doks...

Although I have no experience with them, in all my years on this site, I've never heard one thing bad about Chief engines. Nothing but praise for their set-ups. I'll definitely consider them when I buy my next boat. They're also a sponsor here.

Sterling 875 engines, bam 1500 tranny, 6 drive with 5 blade props. and one of those little diesel generators.

Just curious why you don't want Merc? You could be just about anywhere in the world if something went wrong, you could have it covered under warranty. Try that with an independant builder.

Chris, do you know if Innovation does performance rebuilds on stock Merc motors?

Chiefs!
 

I had 650's in the Cafe. Only problem I ever had was with one of the Holley carburetors and I was always pushing the sticks through the dash.

P.S Tommy H. was always very helpful (although I only called him for info.)

Cigwillie

I THOUGHT DOUG LEWIS BUILT THESE "PRO 1"

Try this site out www.steveschmidtracing.com looks like a nice package there.

I know that Innovation does hipo rebuilds. But I would do a 39 epoxy with a pair of merc.900s on #6 that should be good a high teen to 120 mph boat if I had the cash.

You're right about "On The Prowl". The Sterlings went into something else, and I can't remember what the name of the boat is. Still - it's pretty hard to go wrong with D'Annaballe's work. I believe that they have set up agreements with other shops in various parts of the country to look after their stuff, though.

Innovation is a good suggestion - I've got a pair of their 600's and love them.

If you want to stay away from the weight, cost and drag of #VI's, take a good look at the various drives from IMCO...

I thought the 6 drives had the least drag other than surface drives, no gear case to drag through the water, and atleast on the OL's the X is high as hell.

Whoa!!!!!!

Those engines were built by Doug Lewis/Professional Marine in New Jersey...not Sterling....They were dyno'd at Sterling and the resulting engines led to mutual development changes for Doug and Mike D...... The engines put out 1008 hp each....non supercharged. EFI was calibrated by Doug...torque is off the scale too.

I've driven the boat....it idles better than any performance boat I've been in...and goes like hades!


T2x

A Bravo is a Bravo..... a six drive is a six drive..and, while the aftermarket guys beef up the Bravos.....they all might as well be made out of plastic when compared to a six.

T2x

i d rather have drag then a broken bravo

tryarnesons asd 8's , fiore's have a history with arneson and they are cheaper then 6's

Thank you........ But, Id rather be in Bora Bora.

T2x

We will work with you to build a very reliable package. We have some 750 naturally aspirated engines that have over 400 hrs on them. Jassman's boat is at paint, and will be out in a few weeks. His engines made 745 hp @5400 w/ wet exhaust and mufflers. His engines were designed to be extremely reliable. The EFI systems compensate for most conditions, and have a fail-safe mode, which will add fuel and reduce timing in the event a problem occurs. We will also be working with a few major magazines on projects in 2004, and could probably use your boat as a feature. Give me a call if we can help you in any way.

Thanks,

Steve

I want more power than the 525 and 575, plus the 900sc is being faded out. I went through this over and over again and decided to ask everyone to get some good info...Ths has been a tremendous help:)

I am going to call all the builders and se what kind of pricing I am in for then get back to Mike and Paul with what I find out...Tomorrow I plan on calling Pfaff, Sterling, and maybe 1 or 2 more if I have the time. I spoke with Total Marine Performance and Tommy at Chief about some previous work I had done.

I shot the 900sc#6 package to Mike 2 days ago and decided to keep looking for something different...

Trout, I am between TX and So Cal and we have nothing down in TX but tumbleweed and cowboys:p :crazy:

We own a trucking company so I can put the boat on a stepdeck and send it anywhere in the country...I just want the best motor for the dollar that won't break every time we go out or be a maintenance nightmare.

Already corrected - see post #28, but thanks for the clarification anyway. I was SURE that Mike told me that he had been involved in those engines somehow....

Bora-Bora, huh? Post some pics for us less fortunate ones, please.

"Plastic bravos" - :eek:

How about Sterlings 850 ish ??? package with sixes ... oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh boy !!!!!!!!!!!

Mike D. says 200 hours !!!:cool:

Try the Total Marine Guys, Steve and Eddie, 954-649-9888.

The motors going in my 4300 Nortech were built for reliability, I'm tired of tinkering and just want to have a good time this year hitting as many poker runs as possible.

599 C.I. Dart [email protected]@4500
Idle.750rpms...WOT 5500.

Lunati Pro race crank
Oliver billet rods
JE Forged pistons
Dart pro 1 fully ported and hand polished heads
crane hyd. roller cam and hardware
custom 14qt oil pan
custom built multi port FI
2000 cfm billet throttle body
MSD ignition

And a 1 year warranty, with proof of oil changes every 10-15 hours, which is what I do anyways. If I had the video of them running on the Dyno, I would put it on here for you guys. Jeff