See this is why no one wants to humor you. If you ever buy a boat and you are in calm water doing high speed turns like a moron, you WILL end up wrecking eventually. It WILL be your fault, no one elses.

Sadly, you will probably be one of the guys who's ego tells them that there is NO WAY you could be at fault, so you find someone else to blame, or worse, sue. You have only told us that you are not capable of being responsible for your own actions.

As usual, you haven't read any of the credible posts, so your knowledge will continue to be scarce. The water wasn't calm, it was windy and rough. It was a 225,000 boat not 400.

In the beginning we were given two ears and one mouth. By design, we should listen twice as much as we talk.

...fine but no name calling

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LPA2106
[B]..as to GLH ( of course being it was a Cig had nothing to do with his comments) and other's I can only offer this:

If you can't answer a man's argument, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.
- Elbert Hubbard

and

Albert Einstein - "The difference between genius and stupidity
is that genius has limits".

...name calling is a compliment from you guys...and I have limits..do you?


ever know that Einstein was a sailor?

when boats violently spinout in calm waters a small distance from shore it's design...even trained pro's can't react that fast...so don't waste time calling me names..re-evaluate the designs and power..and educate...amazing that a 400k boat does this...if a sportscar did this they would pull it off the market...

...my only point is that like in the stock market the greedy get slaughtered...too much greed in "design" can lead to that too....a few of these "stepped boats" look like a "Great White" Shark bit the undersides off the boat..you can see they will spinout easily...





what planet are u from?? non step boats spin too!!! i believe any performance boat can spin depending on how hard u turn and conditions etc,
my viper is a sports car and belive me,, u would not have a hard time spinin out.. it aint got no steps should they add another axle so we could have 6 wheels on the ground??
i dont want to be protected,, i want to be able make some judgments and decisions and use my common sense drive and buy what i want...
this would turn into a communist regim where we all can have a row boat max 2.5 hp and a hugo with 55 hp
full harness in the car and a padded cell to sleep in so if u fall out of your bed u dont get hurt either, oh and dont forget your drull cup and helmet..

i am glad all our ok on the cig god bless em,,
its the old thing stuff happens and yes we know these boats can be dangerous and that is why we take precautions life jackets lanyards good bolsters and stout well built and maintained boats that can run thru the chit...

There are ongoing pros and cons regarding this hull design. Therefore, the debate will continue: Are stepped hulls inherently more dangerous than non-stepped hulls?

Steps are very interesting but seem to be useful only at high speed and suffer terribly at low speed. In waves the side air entry can be blocked and cause lateral accelerations that are uncomfortable at best and dangerous at worst. Some try what they call ram air ducts and some have tried powered air inlets to create a kind of surface effect vehicle.

An informed boater is your best customer

no its the nut bhind the wheel that can be inherently more dangerous..

ongoing pros and cons re deaths in cars could the design of
a viper more dangerous than a ford escort?

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Yes .........unless you own or build them.

T2x

I repeat:

Steps are very interesting but seem to be useful only at high speed and suffer terribly at low speed.

I repeat:

There are ongoing pros and cons regarding this hull design. Therefore, the debate will continue: Are stepped hulls inherently more dangerous than non-stepped hulls?

I repeat:

OY!

There are ongoing pros and cons regarding this hull design. Therefore, the debate will continue: Are stepped hulls inherently more dangerous than non-stepped hulls?