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Old 12-03-2004, 10:10 PM
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Was he that bad of a guy?? Didi anybody here know Ben, Sal magluta or willie falcon? What the deal?
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You've only touched the tip of the iceberg.

You missed that era........thats only three of many.

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Troutly, get in here with that popcorn!
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LS, did you know these guys??
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I did an a few more, if you were a racer back then, they were part of the program.
after 8 years of racing you meet alot of interesting people an they were not all from
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Was he that bad of a guy?? Didi anybody here know Ben, Sal magluta or willie falcon? What the deal?

In 1979 I went to work for Howard Quam. The boat was #45 "Flapjack" and I was to replace Keith Hazell as his throttleman. I remember Sal and Willie showing up to the after-race dinners with the most beautiful Hispanic women I'd ever seen. I didn't get to know them personally, but they were always nice to me if I ever was around. Once before a race I remember Sal telling me: "Be safe out there.". I thought that was cool because he really didn't KNOW me, just recognized I was a racer.

I didn't meet Ben until the late 1980s when I worked for Everglades Marina. Everglades had an office for a short time at Ft. Apache Marina. Our paths didn't cross again until after he was "away" and he called the Apache display at the New York boat show and I happened to answer the phone. His father liked me and obviously had told Ben because he knew who I was and was very nice to me over the phone. It was like talking to a celebrity because I had heard so much about him.

Sorry for the trip down memory lane!
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This should be interesting.
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Holy chit!! Here we go again. This thread will bring out some members who migrated to that 'other site', plus I bet we see a few new members register and post away....


What site would that be? Lockedupdrugdealers.com ?
I know of a few people that consider him a friend. I think had a lot of people that liked hanging around his money and influence. He probably was a nice guy untill you crossed him up in his "bussines".
I think he is sitting exactly where he belongs.
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[QUOTE=d-hlaw]Was he that bad of a guy??QUOTE]
He hired a shooter to kill Don Aronow, I'd say so.
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