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cstraub 05-05-2005 09:08 AM

Re: Roller lifters input
 
You are correct Mr. Gadgets.

Chris

Johnny DCB 05-05-2005 10:56 AM

Re: Roller lifters input
 
What effect does low rpm have on a lifter?

PatriYacht 05-05-2005 11:54 AM

Re: Roller lifters input
 
They are lubricated, cooled by splash and at low rpm's they don't get enough. I think this led to my loosing a lifter after a 2 hour idle up a no wake river. Next time out it failed. What a mess.

Johnny DCB 05-05-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Roller lifters input
 

Originally Posted by PatriYacht
They are lubricated, cooled by splash and at low rpm's they don't get enough. I think this led to my loosing a lifter after a 2 hour idle up a no wake river. Next time out it failed. What a mess.

Now is that with a stock GM block or aftermarket one? Doesnt the Dart,Merlin,etc. blocks have better oiling systems?

GPM 05-05-2005 03:34 PM

Re: Roller lifters input
 

Originally Posted by Mr Gadgets
Just a thought here.. the solid rollers.. it was mentioned they can handle 6-8k rpm.. but how do they handle 600 rpm for all the no wake zones? I think that is where my problem exsists.. low rpm, at least that is what I have been told.. :eek: :eek:

That's why Jessel, Crower and maybe others have the pressure pin oiling option. [hppo= high pressure pin oiling] so the lifter and lobe get constant oil, no matter what rpm.

GPM 05-05-2005 03:40 PM

Re: Roller lifters input
 

Originally Posted by Johnny DCB
Now is that with a stock GM block or aftermarket one? Doesnt the Dart,Merlin,etc. blocks have better oiling systems?

I've had good luck with the big M.

WETTE VETTE 05-05-2005 06:23 PM

Re: Roller lifters input
 
I know the Isky's I am running have the pressurized pin oiling as well. I have heard the Isky's are made by Morel? Any truth? BigM block is an awesome piece!

Craig

cstraub 05-05-2005 06:47 PM

Re: Roller lifters input
 
Most of the lubrication that the cam and lifters gets is from "spash". At low rpm the lack of splash severly reduces the amount of oil the lobe and lifter gets. Now the lack of oil causes the needle bearings to get hot. Which then cooks the limited oil that is present. Once this oil is cooked excess tolerance builds up in the bearing and axle area. This excess area is now hammered by the excessive spring pressure that roller cam profiles require for high rpm. Lifter fails.

As Mr Gadgets correctly pointed out, high rpm does not kill rollers. Low rpm does.

One thing you can do is go to big lifters such as the .903" or .933" stuff. The larger nose area distributes the load better.

I would not use a solid roller lifter without direct oiling in a boat.

Chris

GPM 05-05-2005 08:23 PM

Re: Roller lifters input
 

Originally Posted by Johnny DCB
I have no worries about the boat,its me that hasnt been that fast behind the wheel before. LOL Im excited to see how this thing will excellerate thats for sure.

How much hp are you planning to run?

Johnny DCB 05-05-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Roller lifters input
 

Originally Posted by GPM
How much hp are you planning to run?

I'll be happy with 1000 but it will be closer to 1300 I hope.Atleast thats the mark we're shooting for.


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