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articfriends 06-30-2005 04:54 PM

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more pics

articfriends 06-30-2005 04:56 PM

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more pics,didn't get one of the supercharger

JaayTeee 06-30-2005 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cstraub
Notice anything about the rod bolt placement on the Jager rod?


They appear splayed inward......aimed inwards,
towards the pin.

rmbuilder 06-30-2005 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Merc 800SC came with rods that look like that.

David,
They are both manufactured by Manley.
Bob

cstraub 06-30-2005 08:41 PM

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JT, you are correct. With the bolts splayed the stress is now distributed up the beam of the rod.

Chris

articfriends 06-30-2005 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cstraub
According to the Dept of Energy in Oakridge, TN they will survive at least 100K miles. Several gas and diesel OEMs are talking to Jager about this technology. You don't need bearings with these either.

Chris

Chris,if you don't need brgs why are they pinned for them? Did you ever see the crankshafts that came out about 15 or 20 years ago made out of a composition material (it was kevlar or carbon fiber or something like it),they said they tested it with no rod brgs or mn brgs but i never seen or heard about it again.If you zoom in on this rod you can see the tapered small end,in your opinion do you think it was to help oil get to pin or what?Just curious what your opinion is,thanks,Smitty

cstraub 07-01-2005 08:22 AM

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Smitty,
These in the pic have pins for the old school guys. Sometimes with new technology you have to take baby steps, so Jagers rods can run either way. Due to the lubricity that the surface has bearing clearance of .0005" can be run on rod journals. Before the nay sayers start, these rods were outlawed in NHRA where they were being run in Pro Stock very, very, very successfully. The actual rods in the Pro Stock engines I saw had 150 passes on them and all rods as far as stretch goes were within .0001" of spec.

Pin bores in the pistons in Cup cars and other high rpm engine applications are oblong horizontally. What has been found is the pin bore if left perfectly round distorts due to the higher rpm and the loads that are put on the pin support area. Pin flex is also an area they have been working on. It would be my guess the beveled little end has something to do with pin flex and reducing it during high rpm.

Chris

Raylar 07-02-2005 12:25 PM

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Smitty,good way to take some weight out of the reciprocating piston end. Most of the pin load is down where this pin end journal is still bigger. Chris, interesting idea there on those rod bolts, angled off the vertical axis. Guess this would possibly add strength by shifting the axis loading?What is the idea on the bearings, I assume some sort of material treatment on the surface or coating?

I love this out of the box rocket science stuff!

Ray @ Raylar

Dave_N 07-02-2005 12:44 PM

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Interesting thread on the 5.4

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=61403

Dave

articfriends 07-02-2005 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_N

maybe this was one of the motors drom the 300 hr durability testing,the machinist who had it told me he thougth it was ran at 100 hours at wot,but maybe it was 300. The mains in block were tore up a little(in the saddles)caps didn't look like they walked though but rest of the parts looked new,Smitty


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