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It was my understanding that the oil companys had to lower the amount of zinc because of EPA regs. (Catalytic converters) I think GM had a cam break in additve, but I'm not sure if it's still available. JC gave me several Oil options. Doug
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[QUOTE=outriggers;2894340]
Originally Posted by minxguy
(Post 2894081)
Waste of money.
You have to give me more than that. It seems ZDDP is a factor in the quality of the oil. Are you saying there is already enough in the off the shelf oils? http://www.cam-shield.com/index.html Doug Stay away from conventional automotive products. Motorcycle specfic products do not fall under the zinc reducing policies of the major oil companies. Ken |
[QUOTE=minxguy;2894844]
Originally Posted by outriggers
(Post 2894340)
If you are going to use Mobil 1 V-Twin, there is more than enough. Stay away from conventional automotive products. Motorcycle specfic products do not fall under the zinc reducing policies of the major oil companies. Ken You NEED an SG; SH..SL... oil. If it says SM; SL; SG then don't use it. SM oils have only 800 ppm zinc whereas V-Twin for example has 1600 ppm. M-1 Silvercap/Amsoil 20W-50's/M-1 V-Twin/Redline/ Motul/RP... etc are all great. |
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[QUOTE=Hydrocruiser;2895023]
Originally Posted by minxguy
(Post 2894844)
SM oils have very low ZDDP. You NEED an SG; SH..SL... oil. If it says SM; SL; SG then don't use it. SM oils have only 800 ppm zinc whereas V-Twin for example has 1600 ppm. M-1 Silvercap/Amsoil 20W-50's/M-1 V-Twin/Redline/ Motul/RP... etc are all great. The ZZ502 is now a "ZZ557" with about 200 more HP than before. The M1-V-Twin is a PIA to find. Would the Mobile 1 silver cap in 15/50 be a good choice/substitute? I change oil/filter every +,-20 hrs. Thanks |
been running the M1 20/50 since after break-in of my 496's. 265 hours now
just stumbled across the V-twin on closeout at a truck stop for $1.99 qt.! needless to say I picked up 18 qts. |
Thanks to all the advice here, I'm putting M1 V-Twin in my new to me HP500 with a M1 filter and 75-90 drive oil!
Thanks.:drink: At $9.99 a quart $1.99 sounds unbelievable.:eek: |
Originally Posted by Rippem
(Post 2897669)
been running the M1 20/50 since after break-in of my 496's. 265 hours now
just stumbled across the V-twin on closeout at a truck stop for $1.99 qt.! needless to say I picked up 18 qts. |
there was 23 or 24 qts available. I wouldn't spend the $10 qt. to fill out 18 for a second change of it, happy with the $5 qt. "regular" M1 20/50.
but at $2 a qt the 18 qts I did take saved me money on the next change over the reg. 20/50 at wallyworld! can't beat that!! |
[QUOTE=Kidnova;2897665]
Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
(Post 2895023)
I ran the M-1 20/50 V-Twin in my ZZ502 for 4 seasons, with plenty of hard run time. The engine was torn down at about 140 hours and the builder said the internals looked great. So I'm a believer in the V-Twin. The ZZ502 is now a "ZZ557" with about 200 more HP than before. The M1-V-Twin is a PIA to find. Would the Mobile 1 silver cap in 15/50 be a good choice/substitute? I change oil/filter every +,-20 hrs. Thanks I run this in my engine: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/wcf.aspx This in my drive: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/agm.aspx For the people who are looking for something a little thicker, this would be a good alternative as well: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/aro.aspx If you're interested in purchasing the Amsoil, I'm a dealer and can get you a better price then you see. |
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