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Rage 03-25-2009 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by 07DominatorSS (Post 2828390)
I ran an entire season of the AMSOIL series 2000 20w-50, 52 hours. I did an oil analysis after the season, and the oil was actually still good to use, however, I did change it anyways, I just like changing everything once a season. I have twin 496ho's, with Bravo X drives. Everything ran great!

I did oil analysis after the season was over on two occasions with the Amsoil Series 2000 20W50 racing oil and the additive package was still good. The hours were not quite as many as yours. I change at the end of the season regardless as well.

07DominatorSS 03-25-2009 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 2828489)
I did oil analysis after the season was over on two occasions with the Amsoil Series 2000 20W50 racing oil and the additive package was still good. The hours were not quite as many as yours. I change at the end of the season regardless as well.

Thats good. I mainly just do the analysis to see if anything else is going on. Maybe gasket leaks, fuel detection, things like that. The AMSOIL oil is so strong I don't even worry about it, except for the level in my crankcases. Now if I was running 100+ hours a season, I might do more analysis, but I still believe that oil would still be perfectly fine.

Rage 03-25-2009 09:30 AM

Is there anything in an oil designed for long term servicabilty that may not be in a racing oil that a typical oil analysis may not check for? Corrosion inhibitors for example?

Hydrocruiser 03-25-2009 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 2828644)
Is there anything in an oil designed for long term servicabilty that may not be in a racing oil that a typical oil analysis may not check for? Corrosion inhibitors for example?

These days with very low zddp in automobile oils there is a need to label oils with high zddp in a way to set them apart.

they may be labeled "racing" or "Motorcycle V-twin" or even "offroad".

In a good balanced high performance oil you want a decnent load of moly; lots of zinc and phosphorous; calcium; some mg; boron corrosion inhibitors..etc

A true racing oil like redline racing does not have detergency...one race and out...

cloudmaster_321 03-26-2009 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser (Post 2829231)
These days with very low zddp in automobile oils there is a need to label oils with high zddp in a way to set them apart.

they may be labeled "racing" or "Motorcycle V-twin" or even "offroad".

In a good balanced high performance oil you want a decnent load of moly; lots of zinc and phosphorous; calcium; some mg; boron corrosion inhibitors..etc

A true racing oil like redline racing does not have detergency...one race and out...

Well that being said, and knowing that even the Amsoil racing has reduced additives, would it be advised to go with a conventional oil such as the 15w-50 Mobil vs the new dominator amsoil racing. I don't know about you guys, but i don't want to run the amsoil 30 hours, send it in for eval, and find out it was worn out when i changed it......

minxguy 03-26-2009 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 2829637)
Well that being said, and knowing that even the Amsoil racing has reduced additives, would it be advised to go with a conventional oil such as the 15w-50 Mobil vs the new dominator amsoil racing. I don't know about you guys, but i don't want to run the amsoil 30 hours, send it in for eval, and find out it was worn out when i changed it......

History has shown you can't go wrong with Mobil V-Twin 20w50, buy it, use it, change it.

Ken

Rage 03-27-2009 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 2829637)
Well that being said, and knowing that even the Amsoil racing has reduced additives, would it be advised to go with a conventional oil such as the 15w-50 Mobil vs the new dominator amsoil racing. I don't know about you guys, but i don't want to run the amsoil 30 hours, send it in for eval, and find out it was worn out when i changed it......

Anecdotal evidence: I have done oil analysis every year for four seasons with engine hours from 90 to 36 with Merc 25W40, MI VTwin & Amsoil Series 2000 20W50 racing. There has always been plenty of reserve additive package that I could have run longer. Now running M1 15W50 Gold Cap and will see the same result.

minxguy 03-27-2009 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Rage (Post 2830394)
Anecdotal evidence: I have done oil analysis every year for four seasons with engine hours from 90 to 36 with Merc 25W40, MI VTwin & Amsoil Series 2000 20W50 racing. There has always been plenty of reserve additive package that I could have run longer. Now running M1 15W50 Gold Cap and will see the same result.

I am guessing you will see more than enough. I wouldn't worry.

Ken

cloudmaster_321 03-27-2009 01:39 PM

I thought i remember reading in this thread, that it was advised to run the silver cap vs. the gold cap.............

Hydrocruiser 03-27-2009 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 2830487)
I thought i remember reading in this thread, that it was advised to run the silver cap vs. the gold cap.............

Either is fine...the GoldCap has a higher TBN for longer extended use in cars.

SilverCap is fine if you change out every 20-40 hrs..


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