Even Porsche' put out a bulletin that high ZDDP oil will not harm the cats on their Turbo's. It's another myth and not a fact it would appear.

The 0w30 works great. We've been using it in our C-5's since it came aronnd. The Z-06 loves it. So did my hopped up WS-6. I used 15w50 in my viper though.

..so the Lambo calls for A Gip to stay in warranty...while I know they have been manufacturing synthetic oils for quite a while I personally feel that the Mobil synthetic product that is a 5W-50 would be my first choice if not the 0W-30 racing.

P.S. Craig...if you have any left over cars or boats I could use one of each...my Lambo collection needs a new addition soon..

I was given the impression that the ZDDP doesn't hurt cats until the engine gets tired and starts burning the oil. THEN it screws them up and so our EPA wants the ZDDP out of street car oil so that we don't risk putting something bad into the air that the "tree huggers" have to breathe. I mean, golly-gee, lets get our priorities STRAIGHT here, guys. And don't forget to send in your Sierra Club dues. --- Jer

Ever talk to new BMW bike owner? Oil consumption of 1 qt/1000 miles is considered to be "normal". Have heard the same about some Buells. I would consider this to be excessive. Hell, in 3K miles you have added enough make up oil to do an oil change. So, is there a correlation between oil consumption and cat life, or does the EPA and or Detroit have a agenda? Ken

Hydrocrusier Lamborghini CANNOT say " to stay in warranty, you must use Agip motor oil" . As a matter of fact no manufacture, (snowmobile, boat engine, motorcycle, car,etc) can make a warranty contingent on you (the purchaser) using a manufacture reccommened product unless the manufacture gives you the product (in your case Agip motor oil) free of charge for the length of the warranty. This law is called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Improvement Act Title 15 Commerce and Trade, Chapter 50 Sec. 15

I've heard, is this true?

Lambo is an Italian Based Company...who knows... but but in reality if they specify a branded oil or anything branded for that matter to meet compliance... then they must provide it for "free"...that's the MM law. They can mandate something.. no doubt..but then it must be all inclusive with no charge for the product. Like Benz for example gives free oil changes with M-1 during warranty.

Why A Gip who knows?? Ferrari used to be going with Sint but that supposedly has changed. It's all about having "your product" associated with a certain type vehicle and the press and attention it gets is my theory. If M-1 goes into the $600K Porsche Carrera GT and it does...then why Sint or A Gip...equal?.. maybe...better?.. prolly not.

ZDDP has such a small effect on todays cats it is not imaginable that anyone even noticed....tree huggers..

All I know is that I am a Mobil man. I have heard of that act and I have heard what the Lambo pricks used to say. Maybe it has changed. From boats, to trucks, to american cars I am a Mobil man.. I wonder why????


Too bad there is a supply shortage. I am in hiding....