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Old 10-26-2005 | 11:09 PM
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This is a little 355ci I built. Stock bottom end.Pump gas made 528hp.I have Been running it in my 70 Chevelle 4040lbs street/drag car for 3 years and also has a 200 shot of NOS.


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Strip - what heads/cam you running ???......will it idle at a reasonable rpm???
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Strip - what heads/cam you running ???......will it idle at a reasonable rpm???
They are the Dart pro ones .Soild roller Crower cam .It idles at 750-850.

It had the steel SR torquers heads on it before .I did some port work to them and it made 492hp with the SR's.

Heres a old pick with 60's on the front
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They are the Dart pro ones .Soild roller Crower cam .It idles at 750-850.

It had the steel SR torquers heads on it before .I did some port work to them and it made 492hp with the SR's.

Heres a old pick with 60's on the front
hard to make power in a boat engine when your limited to about a 9.5:1 comp ratio and about 5800 - 6000 rpm ........how high do you spin that thing Strip???.....do you run race gas???
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Old 10-27-2005 | 10:45 PM
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Here are a couple of options for motors from Biggie

Budget Water Racer 383 450 HP Pump Gas
Season OEm 4 Bolt Block
Probe Factory Performance Forged Pistons
EagleCast Steel External Balance Crankshaft
Eagle SIR 5140 Forged Steel Rod Press Pin
King Silicone Performance Rods and Mains Bearings
Hastings Ring Set
Balanced and Assembled
Dart Iron Eagle Heads;
72cc Chamber
Stainless Valves
Competition Valve Springs
Titanium Retainers and Locks
ARP Headstuds
Mr. Gasket Solicore Head Gaskets or Equivalent
Professional Products Aluminum Intake Manifold
Milodon Double Roller Timing Chain with Torrington Bearing
Scorpion Aluminum Rocker Arms
Specially Selected Hydraulic Flat Tappet Cam and Lifter Set
Matching Pushrods
Damper
Moroso Oil Pan
Melling HIgh Volume Oil pump and Shaft
Aluminum Valve Covers and Chorme Timing Cover
External Balance Flexplate
Dyno tuned and tested, dyno sheet included

$5400

Marine 434 600HP Pump Gas
Dart Lil M 9.025 Deck Nodular Caps
JE Pistons Forged Flat Top
Eagle 4340 Forged Steel Internal Balance Crankshaft
Eagle 6.0 4340 Forged Steel H Beam Rods with arp 2000 Rod bolts
King Alecullar Pro Race Bearings Rods and Mains
Mahle File Fit Performance Ring Set
Dart Pro 1 230 CC Heads- Fully Ported and Flowed
72cc Chamber
Stainless Valves
Competition Valve Springs
Titanium Retainers
10 Degree Locks
ARP Headstuds
Mr. Gasket Solicore Head Gaskets or Equivalent
Dart Intake Manifold
Milodon Double Roller Timing Chain with Torrington Bearing
Scorpion Aluminum Rocker Arms
Comp Cams Solid Custom Roller
Comp Cams Solid Roller Lifters
Comp Pushrods
SFI Damper Internal Balance
Moroso Oil Pan
Melling HIgh Volume Oil pump and Shaft
Aluminum Valve Covers and Chorme Timing Cover
Aluminum Stud Girdle
Dyno tuned and tested, dyno sheet included

we can do this one with a hydraulic roller cam and drop the power down a little but you won't need to play with valvelash at all

$10,699

Consider either of these motors a template and we can sub any parts you desire like a Callies Crank or Manley rods etc.
The Budget 383 is my lowest priced motor and the Dart 434 my highest priced small block. we have many possibilities between the two.
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Old 10-27-2005 | 10:59 PM
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hard to make power in a boat engine when your limited to about a 9.5:1 comp ratio and about 5800 - 6000 rpm ........how high do you spin that thing Strip???.....do you run race gas???
This one peaked at 7000 on the dyno. It runs on 93 pump gas ,timing at 38.the cam is on a 112lc,268at .050 and 625 lift.The carb is to big but it came off my Scarab blower motor Its a 925cfm barry grant gold claw.Still has pretty good throttle response .I can even hit the NOS on pump gas .But I keep it safe on fuel press and retard the timing back to 30 on pump gas .I have been running about 7 diff combos of 355ci in this car for over 10 years.

I even wore out a set of Crower roller tappets in the 3rd motor. Sent then back to Crower and they asked how many passes were on them I told them 13000 miles . they couldn't believe it and gave me a NEW set I am still running them now

Also the air cleaner made 9 hp on the dyno

Again my combo wouldn't work in a boat, but I don't see why you couldn't build a 400-408 ci with stock bottom end a fair set of heads, mild cam 9.5 cr and still make 475-500 hp .

Sorry got long winded


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Old 10-28-2005 | 12:37 AM
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Strip.......dont worry about being long winded!!!!.......its cool to hear about different actual combos guys are running and the stories behind how they arrived at them
There is a pair of 174 blown roller 355s around here that came out of a boat with alot of pretty good stuff in them (bowtie blocks,ported Dart tourqers, Barry Grant 780 carbs, Gill dry exhaust, 12 quart offshore oil pans.....but have Gm steel cranks and pink rods.) they'd need to be gone through but I could get them for a great price.....sposed' to make 470/500hp.......they'd be nice in the back of the Fountain.......trying to get the cam specs from the guy and I'll post the combo on here and see what you guys think.......he said they run 12lbs boost and 7.5:1 blower pistons......Airpacker has seen them run and said they are as nasty a sounding smallblocks as he's ever heard.......I should phone the guy again!.............doug
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Old 10-28-2005 | 12:46 AM
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Mike at Active engines (the engine builder for the Dream Car Garage tv show) was telling me he built a nice 406 for a boat 3 yrs ago and got it back to look it over.....the first one hes got back with any real everyday type hours on it......said the guy runs it pretty hard.......said the deck had all kinds of little cracks in it......still ran fine but.........
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Old 10-28-2005 | 01:00 AM
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Strip.......dont worry about being long winded!!!!.......its cool to hear about different actual combos guys are running and the stories behind how they arrived at them
There is a pair of 174 blown roller 355s around here that came out of a boat with alot of pretty good stuff in them (bowtie blocks,ported Dart tourqers, Barry Grant 780 carbs, Gill dry exhaust, 12 quart offshore oil pans.....but have Gm steel cranks and pink rods.) they'd need to be gone through but I could get them for a great price.....sposed' to make 470/500hp.......they'd be nice in the back of the Fountain.......trying to get the cam specs from the guy and I'll post the combo on here and see what you guys think.......he said they run 12lbs boost and 7.5:1 blower pistons......Airpacker has seen them run and said they are as nasty a sounding smallblocks as he's ever heard.......I should phone the guy again!.............doug
Sounds like nice motors , theres nothing like a blower

http://media.putfile.com/CamaroSS-blower
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Originally Posted by pull my trigger
came out of a boat with alot of pretty good stuff in them (bowtie blocks,ported Dart tourqers, doug
Not to be too picky but World Products makes Torkers, Basic iron head but does good with porting, comes w 72 cc chambers so good for a boat.
Dart does Iron Eagles and Pro aluminum heads.

These do sound like nice motors. There's no point (to me) in putting on a blower with 3 lbs of boost, you can get the same power increase elsewhere. If your going to blow em, it has to be significant boost to justify the expense.

I like big inch small blocks, much more then 350s in boats.
If you are building a 400-406, just step the crank up to 3.875 for a 415 -421 ci
I like big inch, Big blocks more. Not much more $$ to build if you're going custom. A 540 makes 600-660 hp much easier then a 434, but I digress...
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I found this on SSC heads ,pretty cool

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sum...fo/heads1.html
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