Change of Engine Plans?
#12
its 2/3 as big,you can't run as much boost as you could on the same octane (procharger used to say you could run 6 psi boost on 89 octane with aw504 vs 6 psi of boost on aw324 w/91 octane so maybe turning boost up with your innercooler much past 7 or 8 psi would require higher octane then you could buy at pump,Smitty
#14
you also really shhould have a 12 rib drive to turn boost up much so belt won't slip,I imagine if you have a aw324 you probably have 8 rib drive also,Smitty
#16
If your running a m-1,8 rib drive and aw324 innercooler you could turn up the boost some with your 454 but you will have to calculate how fast your turning the blower. A m-1 is rated for 1400 cfm at 57,000 rpm's,a m-3 is rated at 2200 cfm at 57,000 rpm's.You can spin your supercharger past its limit (I do) but at a certain point it will create alot of heat and parasitic loss.I'm not sure how much you can gain on your 454 with a m-1 as I'm not a expert at this,just have some limited experience from my own. I can tell you the pulleys that made 8.5-9 psi of boost on my 502 w/m-3 only made about 6.5-7 on my 540,I hade to re-pulley to get same boost because of the cubic inches. You would have to spin the m-1 to the moon to make much boost on a 540,its really too small.My 540 only made 630 hp/700 ft lbs tq on dyno the first time between conservative timing,not enough boost and restrictive exhaust ports on my merlin iron heads. My boat ran 74-75 mph with motor directly off the dyno,it ran 79-80 mph with 502 with SAME HEADS,PULLEYS AND EXAUST,so my 502 was probably closer to 700 hp. I re-pullied the blower to turn up boost,switched to a 12 rib drive,turned up timing in 2 degree increments and was able to get boat to run 82-83 normally loaded and 85 with light load so by most estimations was somewhere around 750 hp/800 ft lbs tq,was still running 43 lb injectors with fuel pressure just about at 80 psi. I exstensively modified the mpi intake,switched to 62 lb injectors,thermal coated the parts,switched to afr cnc'd heads that flowed 25-30 % more than merlins,re-cammed,went from lightning headers to stainless marine hi tq 3's and made almost 950 hp and over 950 ft lbs tq,boat now runs 89 mph w/1200 lbs of fuel and passengers and has seen 92.8 2 passengers and 1/4 tk of fuel. Heres a dyno sheet showing old 540 numbers and new ones,Smitty
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Originally Posted by articfriends
If your running a m-1,8 rib drive and aw324 innercooler you could turn up the boost some with your 454 but you will have to calculate how fast your turning the blower. A m-1 is rated for 1400 cfm at 57,000 rpm's,a m-3 is rated at 2200 cfm at 57,000 rpm's.You can spin your supercharger past its limit (I do) but at a certain point it will create alot of heat and parasitic loss.I'm not sure how much you can gain on your 454 with a m-1 as I'm not a expert at this,just have some limited experience from my own. I can tell you the pulleys that made 8.5-9 psi of boost on my 502 w/m-3 only made about 6.5-7 on my 540,I hade to re-pulley to get same boost because of the cubic inches. You would have to spin the m-1 to the moon to make much boost on a 540,its really too small.My 540 only made 630 hp/700 ft lbs tq on dyno the first time between conservative timing,not enough boost and restrictive exhaust ports on my merlin iron heads. My boat ran 74-75 mph with motor directly off the dyno,it ran 79-80 mph with 502 with SAME HEADS,PULLEYS AND EXAUST,so my 502 was probably closer to 700 hp. I re-pullied the blower to turn up boost,switched to a 12 rib drive,turned up timing in 2 degree increments and was able to get boat to run 82-83 normally loaded and 85 with light load so by most estimations was somewhere around 750 hp/800 ft lbs tq,was still running 43 lb injectors with fuel pressure just about at 80 psi. I exstensively modified the mpi intake,switched to 62 lb injectors,thermal coated the parts,switched to afr cnc'd heads that flowed 25-30 % more than merlins,re-cammed,went from lightning headers to stainless marine hi tq 3's and made almost 950 hp and over 950 ft lbs tq,boat now runs 89 mph w/1200 lbs of fuel and passengers and has seen 92.8 2 passengers and 1/4 tk of fuel. Heres a dyno sheet showing old 540 numbers and new ones,Smitty
those are some awesome numbers. I will be giving ya a shout when installing my 509cid Whipple and turning the boost up.
Now,,,to get a hold of that dead beat marine mechanic and get my stuff back!!
I can't even get him to return my calls again!!
#19
Its on the boat,motor is back in and aligned,rebuilt the gimbal today,just put it on,my son is putting the manifolds,tailpipes and blower back on the boat as I type and I just tore the lower unit down the rest of the way and washed it. I just came in to eat,when I go back out I'm assembling the lower unit with the gears I had heat treated locally and then I'm attaching lower to upper,installing it on the boat then I have to mount the rams and drill/thread the rest of the ram mounts. Might see the water tommorrow
,Smitty
,Smitty
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