Adding a procharger to a 300hour hp500efi ?
08-01-2006 | 12:33 AM
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Re: Adding a procharger to a 300hour hp500efi ?
Originally Posted by tomcat
I'm with Airpacker on the rebuild. You definitely need the head gaskets (Cometic) and better rod bolts and lifters wouldn't hurt either.
On another point, there are 6 @ 90 degree elbows, one abrupt expansion into the intercooler, one abrupt contraction after the intercooler and one abrupt transition into the throttle body on the Procharger system. All this amounts to big pressure losses, forcing the blower to work harder and hotter to deliver a given amount of boost to the intake.
If you have the headroom this system is much more efficient. It has one vaned elbow into the throttle body after which air velocity (and pressure losses) are greatly reduced through the upper plenum and intercooler.
Sorry, I just get crazy when I see so many elbows.
On another point, there are 6 @ 90 degree elbows, one abrupt expansion into the intercooler, one abrupt contraction after the intercooler and one abrupt transition into the throttle body on the Procharger system. All this amounts to big pressure losses, forcing the blower to work harder and hotter to deliver a given amount of boost to the intake.
If you have the headroom this system is much more efficient. It has one vaned elbow into the throttle body after which air velocity (and pressure losses) are greatly reduced through the upper plenum and intercooler.
Sorry, I just get crazy when I see so many elbows.
PS-was great meeting you at st claire.
08-01-2006 | 06:44 AM
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Re: Adding a procharger to a 300hour hp500efi ?
I know what you guys are saying about the 90 degree bends. But I am not looking for 800 plus hp. just a low boost, intercooled, engine. I also don't have the engine room, this is for my 288 Sunsation. I am also limited in front of the engine. I am leaning towrads Procharger because a good personal friend is a dealer here in Ottawa, and wants to get one out.
So no doubt the inter cooler will have to sit to the left of the engine, and run 5 feet of piping. But if it still produces 600 plus hp, I'm fine with that.
I also am factory removing the heads to have the valve seats, and guilds looked at. Along with new gaskets too.
So if I prop the boat to turn no more than 5000 or so rpm after the blower, and be easy on the stick, I think I can get another 200 hours out of her. Then rebuild to suit the procharger a little better.
Just thinking out loud here.
So no doubt the inter cooler will have to sit to the left of the engine, and run 5 feet of piping. But if it still produces 600 plus hp, I'm fine with that.
I also am factory removing the heads to have the valve seats, and guilds looked at. Along with new gaskets too.
So if I prop the boat to turn no more than 5000 or so rpm after the blower, and be easy on the stick, I think I can get another 200 hours out of her. Then rebuild to suit the procharger a little better.
Just thinking out loud here.
08-01-2006 | 11:35 AM
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Re: Adding a procharger to a 300hour hp500efi ?
Originally Posted by Canada Jeff
I know what you guys are saying about the 90 degree bends. But I am not looking for 800 plus hp. just a low boost, intercooled, engine. I also don't have the engine room, this is for my 288 Sunsation. I am also limited in front of the engine. I am leaning towrads Procharger because a good personal friend is a dealer here in Ottawa, and wants to get one out.
So no doubt the inter cooler will have to sit to the left of the engine, and run 5 feet of piping. But if it still produces 600 plus hp, I'm fine with that.
I also am factory removing the heads to have the valve seats, and guilds looked at. Along with new gaskets too.
So if I prop the boat to turn no more than 5000 or so rpm after the blower, and be easy on the stick, I think I can get another 200 hours out of her. Then rebuild to suit the procharger a little better.
Just thinking out loud here.
So no doubt the inter cooler will have to sit to the left of the engine, and run 5 feet of piping. But if it still produces 600 plus hp, I'm fine with that.
I also am factory removing the heads to have the valve seats, and guilds looked at. Along with new gaskets too.
So if I prop the boat to turn no more than 5000 or so rpm after the blower, and be easy on the stick, I think I can get another 200 hours out of her. Then rebuild to suit the procharger a little better.
Just thinking out loud here.
08-03-2006 | 08:07 AM
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Re: Adding a procharger to a 300hour hp500efi ?
Originally Posted by Canada Jeff
I know what you guys are saying about the 90 degree bends. But I am not looking for 800 plus hp. just a low boost, intercooled, engine. I also don't have the engine room, this is for my 288 Sunsation. I am also limited in front of the engine. I am leaning towrads Procharger because a good personal friend is a dealer here in Ottawa, and wants to get one out.
So no doubt the inter cooler will have to sit to the left of the engine, and run 5 feet of piping. But if it still produces 600 plus hp, I'm fine with that.
I also am factory removing the heads to have the valve seats, and guilds looked at. Along with new gaskets too.
So if I prop the boat to turn no more than 5000 or so rpm after the blower, and be easy on the stick, I think I can get another 200 hours out of her. Then rebuild to suit the procharger a little better.
Just thinking out loud here.
So no doubt the inter cooler will have to sit to the left of the engine, and run 5 feet of piping. But if it still produces 600 plus hp, I'm fine with that.
I also am factory removing the heads to have the valve seats, and guilds looked at. Along with new gaskets too.
So if I prop the boat to turn no more than 5000 or so rpm after the blower, and be easy on the stick, I think I can get another 200 hours out of her. Then rebuild to suit the procharger a little better.
Just thinking out loud here.
Last edited by dagah2x; 08-03-2006 at 02:22 PM.
08-03-2006 | 12:40 PM
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Re: Adding a procharger to a 300hour hp500efi ?
Thanx for the info Daga. My guy is still waiting to hear back from the main marine guy at Procharger. He has been tied up at a show somewhere.
08-06-2006 | 10:57 AM
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Re: Adding a procharger to a 300hour hp500efi ?
I agree, Go through the motors. I don't know of too many peaople getting more than 200 to 250 hours in a blower motoer without some kind of maintenance. A stock motor with 300 hours will start to put fuel in the oil during the first year. Best to rebuild, Cometic gaskets , studs, springs, valves, etc.
