compairing out drives
12-30-2006 | 03:51 PM
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Re: compairing out drives
The boat in question is a 28 Pantera single engine.
Does anyone think this is to stern heavy with a #6 ? I wouldn't think it would be as bad as twins w/ bravo's on the c.g.
I assume the #5 is a lighter assmy.
I certinly don't want to change the handling too much. I does seem to be balanced very well.
Does anyone think this is to stern heavy with a #6 ? I wouldn't think it would be as bad as twins w/ bravo's on the c.g.
I assume the #5 is a lighter assmy.
I certinly don't want to change the handling too much. I does seem to be balanced very well.
compared to the bravo boat of same brand the investment was well worth it, being it was infact vertually bullet proof.
12-30-2006 | 04:07 PM
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12-30-2006 | 04:29 PM
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Re: compairing out drives
The boat in question is a 28 Pantera single engine.
Does anyone think this is to stern heavy with a #6 ? I wouldn't think it would be as bad as twins w/ bravo's on the c.g.
I assume the #5 is a lighter assmy.
I certinly don't want to change the handling too much. I does seem to be balanced very well.
Does anyone think this is to stern heavy with a #6 ? I wouldn't think it would be as bad as twins w/ bravo's on the c.g.
I assume the #5 is a lighter assmy.
I certinly don't want to change the handling too much. I does seem to be balanced very well.
No, they put twins in them
You'll be fine, by the way i think the #5 is rated for 800hp.
Cougarman
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12-30-2006 | 04:48 PM
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Re: compairing out drives
p.s. as for it being a twin boat, those boats probably dont run as well as a single high h.p single in rough water due to all that extra weight in the stern.
and i believe the weight differernce is a bout 75 lbs from 5 to 6. drive and transom assembly. including the steering on the 5.
and i believe the weight differernce is a bout 75 lbs from 5 to 6. drive and transom assembly. including the steering on the 5.
12-30-2006 | 04:55 PM
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Re: compairing out drives
a stronger bravo style drive on bravo gimbal or an i.t.s gimbal is not good from a mate standpoint, nor for a person with a heavy throttle hand. especially adding say a b-max. your increasing the load of the mechanical leverage agianst the original design,by increasing the weight of the drive itself. thus increasing the failure rate in critical areas ,like the pivot pins, and the helmut. i have seen this many times , and more so in conjunction with the use of the b-max. all your doing is moving the weak link from one area to another.
as far as the merc gimbal beeing the week link, it would depend on the boat length and weight. again mechaincal levrage comes into play as well as the c.g.
lastly and most importantly when a product is used in a fashion above and beyond its original design failure isnt possible it;s eminant.
although gary and i have routinely pushed his gladiator over the 100 mark with out any failure in the engine, gimbal, or drive, i would say this attests to frquent checks of all moving parts, good design,and proper opperation in that relm.
remember hevy hands yeild heavy hits especially when punching a WET PAPER BAG.
as far as the merc gimbal beeing the week link, it would depend on the boat length and weight. again mechaincal levrage comes into play as well as the c.g.
lastly and most importantly when a product is used in a fashion above and beyond its original design failure isnt possible it;s eminant.
although gary and i have routinely pushed his gladiator over the 100 mark with out any failure in the engine, gimbal, or drive, i would say this attests to frquent checks of all moving parts, good design,and proper opperation in that relm.
remember hevy hands yeild heavy hits especially when punching a WET PAPER BAG.
I agree with you 100%. In the end consider the pro's and con's for each setup and pick what fits into your budget, there will always be give/take.
12-30-2006 | 05:05 PM
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Re: compairing out drives
I also have and HD Gimbal/transom assembly for sale in the swap section if it ever comes back!!
The unit has 65 hours fresh water only.
Kirk
Pictures were posted in the Pantera section. Konrad pictures in a couple weeks I hope. It's in production.
The unit has 65 hours fresh water only.
Kirk
Pictures were posted in the Pantera section. Konrad pictures in a couple weeks I hope. It's in production.
01-01-2007 | 02:31 AM
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Re: compairing out drives
We put 950 through a #3 in on the boat in the pic under my name. # seasons and we havent had a single problem. The 3a is stronger and better. We have a 2 speed trans which is good for taking the load off during take off and a soft touch limiter which mist help but we give it a hard time and it lives. We will change to a #5 if it breaks. Wouldnt consider any bravo type unit without some big convincing it wouldnt break. Much lighter though and much less HP to turn than a SSM. Jas
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