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aTX427 06-11-2008 10:09 AM

700sci oil filter
 
Does anyone know what the cross reference oil filter is for Mobil 1?

aTX427 06-14-2008 09:40 AM

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Hydrocruiser 06-14-2008 12:24 PM

Oil Filter f/ most Mercruisers
FYI:The thread type on the filter is 13/16-16.
Fram: PH5, HP4, DG5, PH13 (no anti drainback) Pureolator: L34631
Purolator Pure One: PL34631
AC: PF1218, PF932
Motorcraft: FL-12A
NAPA: 1060, 1060gold
Wix: 51060
Wix Racing: 51060R, 51061R R= Racing
K&N: HP3002
Baldwin: B1428 (Top Rated)
Amsoil: SDF-24
Hastings: LF279
Fleetguard: LF3679
Mercruiser: 35-802885Q
Mobil 1: M1-302 short/Mobil-1: M-111 tall
Kendall: K31
Penzoil: PZ45
Quaker State: QS5
Shell: S63, SH38
Texaco: T38, T38B
Warner: PH1218
STP: S01218
Valvoline: V056

Beak Boater 06-15-2008 07:05 AM

Wix number for 700sci is 51222R, cross that to get a Mobil 1 filter if you want.

Hydrocruiser 06-15-2008 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Beak Boater (Post 2590365)
Wix number for 700sci is 51222R, cross that to get a Mobil 1 filter if you want.

Thanks for the info Beak..

The 51222R is for a system having a 1 1/2” - 12 T.P.I. nipple.

The Mobil-1 Oil Filter cross reference for this application would be the M-104 (Short); M-208 (Tall)

I think you want the tall filter John.

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/racing.asp#oil

aTX427 06-15-2008 07:03 PM

thank you!

Hydrocruiser 06-15-2008 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by john.sblendorio (Post 2590637)
thank you!


You are Welcome! :ernaehrung004:

seltzer 06-18-2008 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Beak Boater (Post 2590365)
Wix number for 700sci is 51222R, cross that to get a Mobil 1 filter if you want.

What do you know about oil filters. :eek:

Hydrocruiser 06-18-2008 12:59 PM

Here is my .02 on oil filters:

Oil Filter company #'s

Filter Companies contact number:

AC Delco: 1-800-233-3526
Punch 1, then 4.

Baldwin: 1-800-882-5394
Punch 1, then 2.

Champ: 1-800-882-0890
Direct line

Donaldson: 1-800-374-1374
Punch 2 for cross ref, punch 3 for technical

Fleetguard: 1-800 223-4583
Punch 1 for cross ref, punch 3 for technical

Fram: 1-800-890-2075
Punch 1

Purolator: 1-800-526-4250
Direct line

Wix: 1-800-949-6698
Punch 4

Hydrocruiser 06-18-2008 01:00 PM

Who makes what filter?

Updated List;
Fram
Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire

Champion Labs

Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust

Wix

Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)

Purolator (Arvin Meritor)

Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo

Denso
Toyota

Mann+Hummel

Mann
Volvo

Clarcor
Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite

Hydrocruiser 06-18-2008 01:03 PM

Don't be stingy with an oil filter...it can cost you a lot later.

wellcrafted 06-18-2008 01:53 PM

Are these the same applications for a 600 sci motor also


Thanks
wellcrafted

Hydrocruiser 06-18-2008 03:36 PM

13/16-16 nipple is used I think up to and including the 525 HP.

Then you go to the 1 1/2” - 12 T.P.I. nipple.

Just do a cross reference to be sure.

I stay away from the $2.99 oil filters...you get what you pay for and you want both good flow and filtration.

Mobil

Amsoil

Baldwin

Wix

Fram Racing

K&N

Mercruiser Racing

Can't go wrong.

SpeedMaster 06-19-2008 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser (Post 2593908)
Who makes what filter?

Updated List;
Fram
Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire

Champion Labs

Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust

Wix

Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)

Purolator (Arvin Meritor)

Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo

Denso
Toyota

Mann+Hummel

Mann
Volvo

Clarcor
Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite

So who makes Mercury Racing filters?

Hydrocruiser 06-19-2008 12:23 PM

I understand that the Mercruiser spec. (14957) was equivalent to the Purolator L20049. Mercruiser specifically recommend not to use double filters (filter within a filter) in Marine engines.

I can not say for sure who makes the Merc HP filter as so many oil filter manufacturers out there make filters with different color paint on them.

My best guess is Purolator; Pure-1

http://www.pureoil.com/

Beak Boater 06-19-2008 04:38 PM

Im certainly no expert, but looking at the Wix 51222r and the Mercury Racing filter. They look identical. Down to some tiny numbers printed on the base just inside the gasket surface. The only difference I see is the cost. Merury Racing $70.00, Wix is $22.50. I know you get what you pay for, but thats just price gouging.

Hydrocruiser 06-19-2008 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Beak Boater (Post 2595415)
Im certainly no expert, but looking at the Wix 51222r and the Mercury Racing filter. They look identical. Down to some tiny numbers printed on the base just inside the gasket surface. The only difference I see is the cost. Merury Racing $70.00, Wix is $22.50. I know you get what you pay for, but thats just price gouging.

I would not be surprised at all. Wix/Baldwin/K&N is as good as it gets.


I use the Mobil-1 Oil Filter which goes for around $10.00.....it is easy to get around town and it is very similiar to a Wix (as I opened one up).

It is a high flow and excellent filtration device that is well built and can be used with synthetic or conventional oil.

Purolator Pure One filters are the amazing for the price.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000H81CFM?...0&linkCode=asn

Hydrocruiser 06-19-2008 09:16 PM

Engine oil filter study:

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...lterstudy.html

o2man98 06-28-2008 02:41 PM

Hydro,

The Amsoil SDF-24 is no longer made and has not been produced for a number of years now. The replacement is the EaO24 and IMO is one of the best if not the best performing filters available. Excellent filtration with great flow at the same time. The Amsoil filters are also now assembled by WIX using proprietary media from Amsoil and Donaldson. The best of both worlds IMO.

http://www.modernoils.com/EaO_Oil_Filters.html

Hydrocruiser 06-29-2008 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by o2man98 (Post 2605937)
Hydro,

The Amsoil SDF-24 is no longer made and has not been produced for a number of years now. The replacement is the EaO24 and IMO is one of the best if not the best performing filters available. Excellent filtration with great flow at the same time. The Amsoil filters are also now assembled by WIX using proprietary media from Amsoil and Donaldson. The best of both worlds IMO.

http://www.modernoils.com/EaO_Oil_Filters.html

The Amsoil Ea024 is excellent. As you said excellent flow and capture.

Hydrocruiser 06-29-2008 02:07 PM

1 Attachment(s)
This is another fantastic oil filter that is "overbuilt".

Excellent flow and filtration...AND good at higher oil pressures; very tough build quality. Similiar to the Mobil-1 and Amsoil filters that use newer generation cellulose. Great filters expecially for synthitic oil for extended use.

I still personally use M-1 oil filters as they are easy to get off the shelf. I use either M-1 V-twin or Redline these days along with some Amsoil Series 2000 products.

I was PM'd thought I would share the info.

http://www.knfilters.com/oilfilter.htm

ROADHOG 06-30-2008 12:48 PM

Just talked to Wix Filters and they suggested that 51061R is meant to be used only once and for RACING only. The TECH person stated that this filter only filter's at 61 microns.

I'm more confused now than when I started too ask questions!!!!

The reason I called Wix was to ask why their filter only had 6 drain back holes and the HP4 had 8. Along with having 2 more holes they were larger in diameter.

Hydrocruiser 06-30-2008 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Drag 'N' Ass (Post 2607710)
Just talked to Wix Filters and they suggested that 51061R is meant to be used only once and for RACING only. The TECH person stated that this filter only filter's at 61 microns.

I'm more confused now than when I started too ask questions!!!!

The reason I called Wix was to ask why their filter only had 6 drain back holes and the HP4 had 8. Along with having 2 more holes they were larger in diameter.



There are non-detergent racing only oils that are used with a high flow lower filtration oil filter for one "race" and only one race.


Unless all you do is race you don't want that kind of oil or filter.

ROADHOG 06-30-2008 04:07 PM

So the answer is do not use the Wix 51061R unless you are racing. This is not an everyday filter with conventional oil?

Hydrocruiser 06-30-2008 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Drag 'N' Ass (Post 2608014)
So the answer is do not use the Wix 51061R unless you are racing. This is not an everyday filter with conventional oil?

Wix actually lists all their filters on the web page below page as "Principally for Racing". A good number do not have anti-drain valves....I am not an expert on Wix Filters.

I use Mobil-1 oil filters. Mobil 1 touts as having 98% single-pass particle filtration at 10 to 20 microns, and multiple-pass efficiency of 95% (vs. 80% for the average filter).

As far as Wix goes:

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/racing.asp

I did some additional research and the 51061R Wix Racing crosses with the following:



Volvo # 835440

MerCruiser #'s 14957, 35-802885T & 35-866340Q03

Wix # 51069 (Racing Only)

Napa # 1069

Purolator # L20049

Mallory # 9-57801

Fram # PH30

Sierra #18-7824

fossil fuel 06-30-2008 08:11 PM

700 Filters
 
I do not see any cross for a Merc 35-840634K01. This part # is on the filters that came with my motors from Merc. what suggestions??

Hydrocruiser 06-30-2008 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by fossil fuel (Post 2608335)
I do not see any cross for a Merc 35-840634K01. This part # is on the filters that came with my motors from Merc. what suggestions??

I can't find anything on that part number..sure it is correct?

What kind of engine/year?

aTX427 06-30-2008 08:46 PM

It is actually a HP6 size filter.

Hydrocruiser 06-30-2008 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by john.sblendorio (Post 2608400)
It is actually a HP6 size filter.


fyi..

Frams HP Series filter is just for performance and racing use. This spin-on filter can trap particles as small as 15 microns smaller than the 20-40 micron-sized particles that cause most engine wear. The filter has an anti-drainback valve. Maximum flow rate is 10 gpm and maximum operating pressure is 200 psi.

Now these are $20/ea and I suspect a decent filter vs. the Fram $2.99 filters>>?

fossil fuel 06-30-2008 10:35 PM

I was told this filter does not have a drainback valve. Makes for less of a mess whan changing. Punch a small hole in the top and wait a while... remove with no mess. I checked the # it is correct..Thanks..700's w/NXT's

wellcrafted 07-01-2008 07:22 AM

oil filters
 

Originally Posted by fossil fuel (Post 2608595)
I was told this filter does not have a drainback valve. Makes for less of a mess whan changing. Punch a small hole in the top and wait a while... remove with no mess. I checked the # it is correct..Thanks..700's w/NXT's

merc oil filter part # 35-840634k01 this is the same on the 600 sci, i have been trying to find a cross for mine , if you find a cross let me know

wix # 57003r
wix #5122r are both the same size but show for racing only i think the thread size is different.

none of the mobil 1 filters matched so far

Beak Boater 07-01-2008 09:54 AM

Not sure which way this tread went. The 600 sci and the 700 sci, do not use the same oil filter. Or at least the 600's we had, and 700's we now have don't. The 600's you can cross with a Fram HP 4.

Hydrocruiser 07-01-2008 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Beak Boater (Post 2609085)
Not sure which way this tread went. The 600 sci and the 700 sci, do not use the same oil filter. Or at least the 600's we had, and 700's we now have don't. The 600's you can cross with a Fram HP 4.

So it looks like Merc wants more flow and sacrifices filtration on it's bigger motors?

SO a Wix Racing or Fram HP series is what they spec for?

fossil fuel 07-01-2008 12:33 PM

I just called Wix & Fram. They have never seen this merc part #35-840634K01..........mmmmm

Hydrocruiser 07-01-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by fossil fuel (Post 2609300)
I just called Wix & Fram. They have never seen this merc part #35-840634K01..........mmmmm

Either have I...:food-smiley-007:

wellcrafted 07-01-2008 01:34 PM

600 sci
 

Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser (Post 2609333)
Either have I...:food-smiley-007:

I have in my hand a merc oil filter off my 2008 600 sci motor

#35-840634k01 merc part # (that is the correct part # as its the same on the new one i just put on boat sat.

its about 4 1/2 " wide 6 1/4 tall with a 1 1/2 " thread opening

I just changed oil last weekend . In checking with wix based on measurements

the # 57003r
# 5122r both look the same size as the merc filter

Hydrocruiser 07-01-2008 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by wellcrafted (Post 2609396)
I have in my hand a merc oil filter off my 2008 600 sci motor

#35-840634k01 merc part # (that is the correct part # as its the same on the new one i just put on boat sat.

its about 4 1/2 " wide 6 1/4 tall with a 1 1/2 " thread opening

I just changed oil last weekend . In checking with wix based on measurements

the # 57003r
# 5122r both look the same size as the merc filter


Mercruiser cross numbers for K&N filters....



http://www.knfilters.com/marine/maroilfilter.htm

Cross for more filters..

http://www.amsoil.com/products/oil_a...ng_filters.pdf

So my research found that the 600 Mercury #'s cross with a Fram HP-4 = Wix 51060R = K&N 07-0029 = MOROSO 22460

If I were fortunate to have a pair of 600's I would go with one of the filters above as they are built for "Racing".

I would probably use the K&N filters. As the new ones have really outstanding flow and capture as well. The MSRP is $14.00 and Autozone and PepBoys have them for around $10.00.

http://www.knfilters.com/oilfilter.htm


I like what Moroso is saying here...a balance of flow and filtering..27 micron filtration (I think Wix was 60 mics if I recall.) This Moroso filter is in my mind equal to a K&N... lots of flow...proper engine oil pressures...max. engine life. Not that Wix is a bad filter or anything.

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=20002


The 700's cross with a Fram HP-6 = Wix 51222R, 57003R, = Moroso 51222R, 57003R. M0bil-1 501; No K&N #'s.

I think we hav it nailed for the 600/700 engines...agree?

Beak Boater 07-01-2008 05:59 PM

Its just a coincidence I guess, that the Wix part # and the Moroso part # is the same for the 700 sci??

Hydrocruiser 07-01-2008 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Beak Boater (Post 2609798)
Its just a coincidence I guess, that the Wix part # and the Moroso part # is the same for the 700 sci??

Gotta wonder...but the Moroso has different specs for filtration I believe.

aTX427 07-02-2008 08:24 AM

Hydrocruiser, I also prefer the Mobil 1 filters. Do you know what the cross reference part number is from the HP6 to Mobil 1?


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