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Originally Posted by Fixxxer22
(Post 2869184)
oh yeah, you gotta have beer. mabye i can pick up some of those cheapie electric style tabs.
Rob |
The Bravo 1 does not lift the bow as much as Mirage Plus.
A Bravo 1 is a good all around prop. I have now idea why you are porpoising. My 93 24 OL never porpoised with a Bravo 1 prop. It would porpoise in the midrange with a Mirage Plus prop, but that could easily be controlled with trim. Try trimming it out farther using the trailer button. Baja's love lots of trim. Get some trim tabs. I would try the 23" Mirage Plus that you can borrow. Your propslip numbers are very high. A 24 OL with 500hp should run 70mph. I had 420 or so hp and ran a solid 65mph. I ran 60mph with a stock 454mag. |
Originally Posted by onesickpantera
(Post 2869172)
The Mirage/Mirage Plus props will carry the bow better than a Bravo prop. A stock Bravo prop lifts the stern too much.
Yes your Bravo can be reworked but do you need the 4 blade prop? If your propshaft is deep you would probably be better off with a 3 blade. |
Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 2869588)
The Bravo 1 does not lift the bow as much as Mirage Plus.
A Bravo 1 is a good all around prop. I have now idea why you are porpoising. My 93 24 OL never porpoised with a Bravo 1 prop. It would porpoise in the midrange with a Mirage Plus prop, but that could easily be controlled with trim. Try trimming it out farther using the trailer button. Baja's love lots of trim. Get some trim tabs. I would try the 23" Mirage Plus that you can borrow. Your propslip numbers are very high. A 24 OL with 500hp should run 70mph. I had 420 or so hp and ran a solid 65mph. I ran 60mph with a stock 454mag. i bet im only at about 55 mph when it starts and i cant push through it. there is so much rpm left. im going out tonight and im gonna grab the 23 and see what happens. i will let you know. |
Mirage Plus, up 1-2" in current pitch to match. Also check bottom for a hook.
It's a small boat, sometimes that's just what they do. Also, a 1.50 ratio drive sometimes helps. |
Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 2869793)
Mirage Plus, up 1-2" in current pitch to match. Also check bottom for a hook.
It's a small boat, sometimes that's just what they do. Also, a 1.50 ratio drive sometimes helps. |
A hook is something that forms in the last couple feet of the boat during the production process. Take a yard stick or any flat edge and place it under the boat starting at the stransom. If there's a gap in the middle (transom to end of stick) you have a hook and it can cause a hull to porpoise or plow.
Sometimes a low gear ratio such as a 1.36 makes the boat ride differently than a 1.50 ratio. I don't recommend reducing the gear ratio unless you start running out of prop. Since you're running a small prop with a 500 hp (24), if you switch to a 1.50 you should be able to run a 28" prop and have better fuel efficiency and sometimes it handles the torque better allowing the boat to be trimmed properly (no porpoise). Every hull is different so it's a crap shoot.. I would contact Baja (Fountain) and find out what drive that boat came with and what ratio they recommend, along with which style prop. Over the years manufacturers raised the X Dimension when the Bravo I props came out. If your X is set up for a Mirage (1993), it will be deeper and run best with a Mirage. |
I had a 1993 24 Outlaw
454mag/365hp/1.5 ratio--23 Mirage plus--5050rpms=60mph ------ " 420hp------"------23 Mirage plus--5450rpms=66mph ------ " 420hp------"------24 Bravo 1------5200rpms=63mph prop shaft was about 7-8" below the bottom of boat. |
well, i went out last night. the water looked good. the wind was blowing against the current. there was about a 2 to 2.5 chop. with little white caps. i could not get the 23 mirage off of the warlock because the warlock is still shrink-wrapped and they used the props as a hooking point for the wrap at the stern. i did not want to mess up his wrap for my own benefit. so i go out with the B1. i took alot of the chit out from the front of the boat. i had 4 people in the cockpit. and keep in mind the water was fast water. i got 5400-5500 rpm out of it and what felt like 70. i had no gps but it was the fastest that boat has ever gone! it developed a chine walk when it got to those faster speeds. on the way home the water had calmed down but i gave it another shot and i was back in that pourpose and i did not really try and get out of it. i think a combination of the water and reduced weight made it push through that point where it starts pourposing. so a mirage plus 25 is in my future. i was on cloud 9 though. that is the absolute fastest that baja has ever gone
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all you guys on OSO rock! thanks for the input. Anyone want a 21 mirage plus
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