I see what u mean about geting expensive now however no silent choice just straight out the back.yes i am jumping the gun i still have to test these headers i was just excited to here my engines running smooth.maybe since like i said before that the shutters inside the pipe blew out and only have 1 of the 4 in there when backing in the boat ramp it shoved the water back up and in down exuast ports. hopefully. money is tight now so step by step