VORTECPRO VS Bob Madera/Haxby
 

Called out by Bob Madera/ Haxby to an engine edurance test. Rules: 454 production block, 454 production heads, any thing else goes. Testing procedure: Haxby/Madera will make one HP dyno pull, then run at 6500 RPM for 20 minutes under full load. The water will then be changed and Vortecpro will follow the same test, which ever engine finishes the test will win, if both engines finish the (endurance test) the highest HP will win. Fuel will be 89 octane as speced by Haxby, 10,000 dollars will be held 30 days in advance (prior to the test) by Mike Lewis, winner takes all. The test shall be conducted at Westec in Ca.

On a SuperFlow Dyno? Say it aint so.

One more thing-----define "production heads".

LOL - See 330HP - 400HP thread.

Weak!!!!

Heads that came on a production 454, I think water capacity will be very important.

He's a posser doesn't like the last thread, so he starts an other with the same thing in it? WTF is that?:signs043:

Called out by Bob Madera/ Haxby to an engine edurance test. Rules: 454 production block, 454 production heads, any thing else goes. Testing procedure: Haxby/Madera will make one HP dyno pull, then run at 6500 RPM for 20 minutes under full load. The water will then be changed and Vortecpro will follow the same test, which ever engine finishes the test will win, if both engines finish the (endurance test) the highest HP will win. Fuel will be 89 octane as speced by Haxby, 10,000 dollars will be held 30 days in advance (prior to the test) by Mike Lewis, winner takes all. The test shall be conducted at Westec in Ca

Weak!! Why not agree to the original terms Bob outlined as everyone will be there? You said you were down with anything, apparently not. (LOL)

Your shop looks nice!

This guy is a joke! The other tread he said his peanut port 454 would stomp any 454 with aluminum heads. Now the whole program is changing. And he won't go to the venue that Bob has already set up because he's chicken!

For the real story read this: starts on page 3 and goes on and on and on.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...hp-400-hp.html

This is his MO on multiple sites. when things don't go the way he wants, he tries to misdirect or just posts the same cut/paste over and over. As I said before, he bogus challenge was accepted using the Outerlimits dyno. Then he wanted to change all the rules, and add $10K bets etc etc. Long story short he never showed. Just like he won't here.

http://youtu.be/qZeG-bhe4_w

video of his high tech dyno room.

Were did I say that, your a very uninformed, key board commando.

WTF is that?

Called out by Bob Madera/ Haxby to an engine edurance test. Rules: 454 production block, 454 production heads, any thing else goes. Testing procedure: Haxby/Madera will make one HP dyno pull, then run at 6500 RPM for 20 minutes under full load. The water will then be changed and Vortecpro will follow the same test, which ever engine finishes the test will win, if both engines finish the (endurance test) the highest HP will win. Fuel will be 89 octane as speced by Haxby, 10,000 dollars will be held 30 days in advance (prior to the test) by Mike Lewis, winner takes all. The test shall be conducted at Westec in Ca

[QUOTE=WETTE VETTE;3510266]Weak!! Why not agree to the original terms Bob outlined as everyone will be there? You said you were down with anything, apparently not. (LOL)


:rolleyes:

Here you go, master engine builder of peanut ports!

Vortecpro:
You seem hesitant to post your dyno sheets...........your dam right hes hesitant, because hes knows hes not going out power me. You seem very hesitant to go head to head with me in a HP contest, your terms are far fetched. For years I have wanted to go head to head with Bob in a HP contest, I dont claim to be a boat engine builder, but I do think if you were to team up with Bob and build a production based 454 with aftermarket heads, on pump gas you would more than likely lose in a HP contest. Now that being said, I cant imagine any engine builder/machinist backing down from that challenge like that, but it does happen a lot on the internet, for one time in your life Bob step up and say come on Mark lets see who makes more HP, forget the crazy test parameters, I will be the first to say I have no experiance running engines for 20 minutes @ full power, but I do have experiance at making HP, and I do have the experiance machining the engine. Mike Lewis's place would also be an excellent place to settle this.

He forgot to tell you that he can do a FULL port job on those heads in TWO hours.....

Wtf afr, dart, brodix, and the others been wasting their time. Peanut ports are where its at! While were at it, let's run quadrajets, cast iron intakes, egr valves, and heat risers for a real detonation event!

See those cutters, animal? You have 0 credibility Bill, how do you explain those pictures????

Try and keep names straight. I am not Bill.

Whos heads are destroying tonight?? You see those cutters, thats how it done. Right

Can I just call you the flow cannibal?

Dude, ask the people on this thread who Zone 5 is, and who Sutphen 30 is. NOT the same person. However, Sutphen30 (Bill) did build my engine. Its 7 years old now and has never had more done to it than oil changes. for the 4 years that I had it, it spent 90% of its time between 5000 and 5500, and never missed a beat.

Now, I'm glad to see that you are following your usual tactics of not getting your way, so misdirect. This is OSO, not your usual posser sites. The people here have been there done that and aren't going to buy your BS.

Mr flow cannibal, or should I say 'user' YOUR thoughts on the endurance test?

Again get it right, one head in one hour.

WTF is that a test stand want to be dyno???

Called out by Bob Madera/ Haxby to an engine edurance test. Rules: 454 production block, 454 production heads, any thing else goes. Testing procedure: Haxby/Madera will make one HP dyno pull, then run at 6500 RPM for 20 minutes under full load. The water will then be changed and Vortecpro will follow the same test, which ever engine finishes the test will win, if both engines finish the (endurance test) the highest HP will win. Fuel will be 89 octane as speced by Haxby, 10,000 dollars will be held 30 days in advance (prior to the test) by Mike Lewis, winner takes all. The test shall be conducted at Westec in Ca. Shut up or put up

you can't make a call out after you've already been called out.
just your way of backing out,same old mo.

This is a joke right? Thats not really supposed to be a dyno is it?

all i see is a empty shop that needs some work , it is easy to keep them clean when you have nothing else to do.:lolhit: Now why don't you post pics of your real shop:bsflag:

no joke can't you see the nice pics he posted of someones empty shop. This is the real deal here:lolhit:

Every thing I would need to win a real dyno shoot out with haxby/madera, or a edurance shoot out, wheres your machine shop haxby??? Refer to post 128 on the 330 HP thread if you want the real pictures, explain that mike, if you can..........waiting spin man................

Why you got such a hard-on for Madera?? never met him, never did buisness with him... But I have heard nothing but good things about him from many many people for years. In a sport filled with horror stories about douche bags that over promise, over charge and under deliver if not totally rip you off, why phuck with one of the good guys?? It's like dropping a 1075 in your bayliner and calling out bob teague or precious and mongo....

Good question, There nothing wrong with Bob Madera, but he had questioned some dyno numbers I put out a few years ago, based on the fact he did not understand how the dyno corrects data, at that point he has never admitted the dyno numbers were correct, this started the problem, now when you machine/ build/ and develop engines you dont want hear it from a guy that has had very little hands on engine experiance, now that being said, Ive allways wanted to get Bob, or Bill into a dyno shoot out, but as you can see its been turned into a endurance test, because he knows who I am, hes not going to beat me HP to HP and he knows this. Look I dont claim to be a boat guy, the only reason I came here was to defend the HP numbers on that peanut port deal. If a boater or car guy needs a cam, I see no problem with Bob designing that cam or the engine for that matter, Im sure he does just fine, but Bob I will kick your ass in a HP contest, and you know it. Hope that clears it up.

you know what any want a be engine build can make horse power for 5 seconds, our motors run for extended time at high rpm and i don't think you chit will do that . In looking at the other thread you came on stiring you chit had nothing to do with definding your junk. you have done this all over the internet , Bod called you out so put up or shut up simple as that . ou don't get to pick anything except what motor you bring to Fl.

You wanted a dyno challenge - you got one, then backed down, then you want another challenge.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

:lolhit:

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Why don't you go Challenge Shaq for a game on one and one.
Ridiculous ? Not really, as you challenge people and then back out anyway. So it really doesn't matter who you challenge anyway.

Time for you to stop this nonsense.....especially here.

Called out by Bob Madera/ Haxby to an engine edurance test. Rules: 454 production block, 454 production heads, any thing else goes. Testing procedure: Haxby/Madera will make one HP dyno pull, then run at 6500 RPM for 20 minutes under full load. The water will then be changed and Vortecpro will follow the same test, which ever engine finishes the test will win, if both engines finish the (endurance test) the highest HP will win. Fuel will be 89 octane as speced by Haxby, 10,000 dollars will be held 30 days in advance (prior to the test) by Mike Lewis, winner takes all. The test shall be conducted at Westec in Ca.

Called out by Bob Madera/ Haxby to an engine edurance test. Rules: 454 production block, 454 production heads, any thing else goes. Testing procedure: Haxby/Madera will make one HP dyno pull, then run at 6500 RPM for 20 minutes under full load. The water will then be changed and Vortecpro will follow the same test, which ever engine finishes the test will win, if both engines finish the (endurance test) the highest HP will win. Fuel will be 89 octane as speced by Haxby, 10,000 dollars will be held 30 days in advance (prior to the test) by Mike Lewis, winner takes all. The test shall be conducted at Westec in Ca.

"Say what again!" Anyone else think of Pulp Fiction reading this guy's repeated responses?! :lolhit:

Called out by Bob Madera/ Haxby to an engine edurance test. Rules: 454 production block, 454 production heads, any thing else goes. Testing procedure: Haxby/Madera will make one HP dyno pull, then run at 6500 RPM for 20 minutes under full load. The water will then be changed and Vortecpro will follow the same test, which ever engine finishes the test will win, if both engines finish the (endurance test) the highest HP will win. Fuel will be 89 octane as speced by Haxby, 10,000 dollars will be held 30 days in advance (prior to the test) by Mike Lewis, winner takes all. The test shall be conducted at Westec in Ca.

maybe the right click on his mouse is stuck and it just keeps copy and pasting on it own?>?

Is your f@cking keyboard stuck??????????????????????????????? you keep posting the EXACT same thing time after time:point:

:lolhit::lolhit:

It sure isn't as nice as your dyno room. Hey lets roll out this car and roll in the dyno.