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Old 11-14-2011 | 04:13 PM
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Well.......you guys are right. they have to come out!

I actually have room and can get a 1/2" drive ratchet and socket in there......the problem is that there are just about no heads left on the damn bolts!!!

These things are so freaking rusted I don't know what I am gonna do to get them off wven with the motors out!!!

I got the risers off, one had a hole rusted straight through, one was gone...I don't know how the exhaust hose stayed connected as there was no metal left. The other two were about the same.

These motors were installed in 1999 and have about 250 hours on them. I am assuming the original exhaust was used. I have never seen rust like this!!!
I'd take them to a shop when they are out. Let them deal with it if you can't. If you end up breaking the bolt heads off and need to have the bolts drilled out of the heads, it's getting expensive. You will no matter what, need to change that exhaust. Eddie, maybe you've got an idea how the get those bolts out?
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Old 11-14-2011 | 04:25 PM
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Do a compression check on the motors before you take them out. I bet your going to find at least one cylinder on each needs work. The heads on the old Gen V motors is notorious for eating valve seats on # 5, 6 cylinders. You should have new seats put in at the least. If changing cams then new springs and pushrods too.

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Old 11-14-2011 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Baja226sport
Well.......you guys are right. they have to come out!

I actually have room and can get a 1/2" drive ratchet and socket in there......the problem is that there are just about no heads left on the damn bolts!!!

These things are so freaking rusted I don't know what I am gonna do to get them off wven with the motors out!!!

I got the risers off, one had a hole rusted straight through, one was gone...I don't know how the exhaust hose stayed connected as there was no metal left. The other two were about the same.

These motors were installed in 1999 and have about 250 hours on them. I am assuming the original exhaust was used. I have never seen rust like this!!!
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Old 11-14-2011 | 04:48 PM
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No, has spent it's entire life on the upper chesapeake. It is crazy to me though, maybe this is just why everyone gets rid of the factory exhaust. I started feeling around on the bottoms of the manifolds and I can literally pull chunks of rust off.
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Old 11-14-2011 | 09:13 PM
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About the only thing to do with the bolts is to wipe off the head and pull the exhaust them. You can either grind off the head, burn it off with a cutting torch or plasma cutter, or knock it off with an air chisel. Once the heads are all gone, you should be able to slide the exhaust off of the bolts. It's gonna fight you, but it should come off. Obviously, the engines will have to be out to do this.
I would not be surprised if some of the head bolts are the same way. I just had a few in that we had to burn off half of the head bolts because there was nothing left. We just wiped the heads of the bolts off with a torch and then lifted the head off. After the head was off we could just unscrew what was left. Good luck. Give me a shout if I can help.
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Old 11-14-2011 | 09:36 PM
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i use thease on rusted or rounded off bolts heads..work like a champ!

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Old 11-15-2011 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Baja226sport
No, has spent it's entire life on the upper chesapeake. It is crazy to me though, maybe this is just why everyone gets rid of the factory exhaust. I started feeling around on the bottoms of the manifolds and I can literally pull chunks of rust off.
thats at least brackish isn't it
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Old 11-15-2011 | 06:45 PM
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A magnum 454 already has a descent cam, before you change the cam keep in mind you may need stiffer valve springs etc, and new lifters, pushrods etc
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Old 11-16-2011 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 88242LS
thats at least brackish isn't it
Really really low salt content. This year was pretty much zero. I run where the susquehanna river comes feeding all fresh water from PA.
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Old 11-16-2011 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pantera232
A magnum 454 already has a descent cam, before you change the cam keep in mind you may need stiffer valve springs etc, and new lifters, pushrods etc
Yeah, I have put motors together before. I do know what is involved. I would have the heads done. If they are still worth using. I guess I will find out soon enough!!!

So, anyone have a proven power combination to make 450-500 with a 454 mag bottom end, rectangular port heads, and exhaust like EMI?

Particular cam, intake, carb, ignition?
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