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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 3841371)
Not tryin to debate ya. I personally have never ran cast cranks, so I cant say. I do recall in one of my clevite books it mentioned something about using the H series on a cast crank...Ill have to look.
Maybe one of the pro builders can shed some light... |
I read the Lingenfelter article, and the conclusion I am drawing from it is that the P-series bearings are a little softer and more forgiving for a cast IRON crank, while the harder H-series bearings work better for a forged STEEL crank. However, the aftermarket cast cranks are made of a steel alloy, not cast iron like the factory ones. Sounds like these fall somewhere in the middle. I do recall reading somewhere that the nodular iron cranks that were used by some of the manufacturers have to be properly polished after being turned, or they will eat up the bearings due to the molecular structure.
Sure would be nice to get some weigh in from some pro's. I am more confused than ever now. Might have to give Clevite's tech line a call tomorrow. |
Originally Posted by Budman II
(Post 3841488)
I read the Lingenfelter article, and the conclusion I am drawing from it is that the P-series bearings are a little softer and more forgiving for a cast IRON crank, while the harder H-series bearings work better for a forged STEEL crank. However, the aftermarket cast cranks are made of a steel alloy, not cast iron like the factory ones. Sounds like these fall somewhere in the middle. I do recall reading somewhere that the nodular iron cranks that were used by some of the manufacturers have to be properly polished after being turned, or they will eat up the bearings due to the molecular structure.
Sure would be nice to get some weigh in from some pro's. I am more confused than ever now. Might have to give Clevite's tech line a call tomorrow. |
If you were going to call anyone I would call Eagle or email them asking them. I looked at that crank on Jegs and it says it has small (.092")radiused fillets so you can use OE bearings. No need for chamfered bearings. Using the "P" would be fine if you wanted. IMO I think either one would work fine.
http://www.jegs.com/p/Eagle/Eagle-ES...55263/10002/-1 |
Originally Posted by picklenjim
(Post 3841518)
If you were going to call anyone I would call Eagle or email them asking them. I looked at that crank on Jegs and it says it has small (.092")radiused fillets so you can use OE bearings. No need for chamfered bearings. Using the "P" would be fine if you wanted. IMO I think either one would work fine.
http://www.jegs.com/p/Eagle/Eagle-ES...55263/10002/-1 |
Not to hijack the thread, but after reading this I'm more confused then before I read it. I'm building a 509ci with factory steel crank, dimple rods, and je pistons (550-600hp). Should I use the clevite h series or the hk? Or am I totally off base and should be looking at king bearings.
Thanks |
Only difference between h and hk is ones coated... Ones not...
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Tom,
Hope this helps. Bob |
Originally Posted by Budman II
(Post 3841553)
It ended up costing me over $400 for the balancing job because they had to add mallory to the crank. For that money, I could have gone with a forged crank!
Good read here. http://www.carcraft.com/howto/ccrp_0...g/viewall.html |
Originally Posted by rmbuilder
(Post 3841733)
Tom,
Hope this helps. Bob I also spent some time looking at the pictures of bearing on the Clevite site, and it's kind of tough to tell if the damage to my bearings were from contaminants or oil starvation. I will need to take a much closer look at them - might take some closeups of them tomorrow to post on the site. There almost HAD to be metal going through them from the cam lobe spalling and the distributor gear wear, but I want to fully analyze this failure before I start reassembling. Here is a link to the site => http://catalog.mahleclevite.com/bearing/ |
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