Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
Metal spray crank repair? >

Metal spray crank repair?

Notices

Metal spray crank repair?

Thread Tools
 
Old 02-02-2013, 09:18 AM
  #1  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 36
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Metal spray crank repair?

My Gen VI 454 Mag span its bearings 11 hours after a rebuild and one of the rod journals has picked up badly enough that it won't clean up with a grind.

My engine builder has said he can get it metal sprayed and ground to refinish it, would this be an acceptable repair? I am concerned that it would be an inherent weakness.
Scarron is offline  
Old 02-02-2013, 10:18 AM
  #2  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: chicago
Posts: 11,332
Received 71 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Personally, I wouldn't do it. I know it can be done, and done successfully. But you have to ask yourself, is it worth it? You can find good used GM steel cranks for 200 bucks or so, or even a replacement scat crank really isn't that expensive in the big scheme of things.

After 11 hours, why did it spin its bearings?
MILD THUNDER is offline  
Old 02-02-2013, 11:09 AM
  #3  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Whitefish Chain - Crosslake, MN
Posts: 430
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

No, I work in a large electrical aparatus repair facility tht utilies metal splaying. We spray shafts that have bearings pressed on them, but not journal bearings. Its not a true bond like welding and it has a tendancy to flake off. You can have it welded and ground, and possibly deal with some locaized hot spots/hard spots, but no spraying. If this is not an all out effort motor, I would just have it welded or replaced based on the cost.
ACrooks69 is offline  
Old 02-02-2013, 12:55 PM
  #4  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 4,480
Likes: 0
Received 40 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

I wouldn't do the spray welding but I would not hesitate to weld and regrind it. Quite a few machine shops have special crank welders. It's not just a regular mig welder. It's actually designed to increase the stroke of a crank. If done properly it can be harder than the original heat treatment. But, you could probably find a good used crank forthe same amount of money.
Eddie
Young Performance is offline  
Old 02-02-2013, 01:01 PM
  #5  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pasadena, MD
Posts: 3,570
Received 121 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Just having a crank turned cost more then a new these days. Ditch it and start over.
f_inscreenname is offline  
Old 02-02-2013, 01:12 PM
  #6  
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
MER Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Little River SC
Posts: 931
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The stock crank is from most likely Kellogg, the nitriding, is very shallow, if it was reground the nitride treatment would be gone and the crank would wear on the loaded side extremely fast. To grind and retreat it's about $435.00 not worth it for that crank. Buy a new 1 piece, externally balanced crank from either Callies or Scat. A new one from GM is about $1200.
MER Performance is offline  
Old 02-02-2013, 01:26 PM
  #7  
Registered
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 36
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the advice, I am based in the UK so finding a good used forged crank is not so easy, hence the need to repair it. I'll reject the metal spray option and instead see if we can locate a good place to get it welded and reground.

My main concern is to discover why it spun the bearings after only 11 hours, at the moment it appears to be oil starvation but I need to pin down the root cause.
Scarron is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.