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Old 03-31-2013 | 08:51 AM
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AGM for the house battery and for the starting battery just go with a maintenance free quality from Penn, Deka, Sears or West Marines Sea Volt. Many like Interstate and Walmart's batteries.

AGM batteries are HEAVY.
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Old 03-31-2013 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Plowtownmissile
I'll admit I'm extremely rough on my batteries and I now use Kinetik powercells. With all the different batteries I've tried, nothing else has come close. No onboard charger or generator but I can push 90+db out of my stereo for 6 hours in the cove with zero performance loss and still spin the engine over at the end of the day with ease. A battery tender goes on after each day. I have an Interstate deep cycle backup battery that I can switch to in an emergency but I've never needed to.
What kind of amps are you running and what size Kinetik battery did you install ?

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Old 03-31-2013 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by formula 382 sr-1
What kind of amps are you running and what size Kinetik battery did you install ?

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I'd have to double check my invoice from Waves & Wheels but I believe Arc amps & a 2000 Powercell.
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Old 03-31-2013 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Plowtownmissile
I'd have to double check my invoice from Waves & Wheels but I believe Arc amps & a 2000 Powercell.
Thanks , Looking at new batterys now !!!

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Old 04-02-2013 | 09:11 AM
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Hello, I noticed your conversation involving our batteries and wanted to provide some clarification for some of the misinformation that has been posted. Contrary to popular belief, our batteries are AGM lead-acid batteries and not gel batteries. As such, they should not be charged on “gel” or even “AGM/gel” settings, because gel batteries have very narrow charging parameters that may not fully-charge non-gel batteries and could damage them over time.

GEORGE MAZ, our engineers would be interested in hearing more about your theory on how our batteries “fry themselves during recharge.” Our batteries can be charged just fine at rates up to 10 amps. I'm not sure why you would suggest otherwise, but again, we'd like to hear your theory. I'm not sure why someone would need to mount a battery upside down, but I cannot recommend they do that with our batteries, although they can be mounted in a variety of other orientations. The information you posted about Sears, Odyssey and Johnson Controls is absolutely false. If anyone has any questions about our batteries, I'll do my best to answer them.

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Old 04-02-2013 | 09:22 AM
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Do the deep cycle Interstate batteries ,going on 5th season .
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Old 04-02-2013 | 09:39 AM
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Ok , i'll chime in . I have been using the same Blue Optima in my cat for going on THIRTEEN seasons with absolutely zero problems . I have no reason to lie about this . There was a small period of time that like any other manufacturer they had a few problems but have worked them out . I am more than satisfied , twelve trouble free seasons speaks volumes .
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Old 04-02-2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by the deep
Ok , i'll chime in . I have been using the same Blue Optima in my cat for going on THIRTEEN seasons with absolutely zero problems . I have no reason to lie about this . There was a small period of time that like any other manufacturer they had a few problems but have worked them out . I am more than satisfied , twelve trouble free seasons speaks volumes .
Congrats, that is as good as my die hards, 10,12,13 seasons over and over. Many times have i exceeded 10 seasons with my silly die hards. I have never gotten less than 10 seasons. I'll never buy anything else.

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Old 04-03-2013 | 02:43 AM
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Odyssey and Diehard Platinum are made by Enersys...it's been a few years since I've done the research...that's how long my Platinum's have been going strong.

Many forums and countless members can't be wrong about the lack of reliability of the Optima brand. You should know, being that you've had to respond to numerous negative criticisms. I do applaud your efforts to address customers concerns...and I hope you've brought some jumper cables too.

I have a dozen similar topics bookmarked so far, that I can post along the same idea. The battery sucks, quality control has fallen off a cliff in Mexico. I still have my second replacement Optima battery sitting on a shelf in the garage in hopes of it taking a charge one day. Didn't have the heart to just throw it away after the money I spent on it. I will take a look at your YouTube video on how to recharge it...then maybe smash it open to see if its filled with gel or little shareholders laughing there asses off.

Maybe if Optima put more money into solving their sulfation problems that lead to premature failure, instead of product promotion hype...you might have a more consistent product to represent. I've been late to work too many times, spending lost time on the side of the road to be convinced otherwise. Who wants to wonder if they've got the good batch or bad batch of Optima batteries...when your miles away out in the ocean?
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Old 04-03-2013 | 03:59 AM
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All my batteries all started failing on the 3rd season. Decided to installed Lifeline batteries March 2011 and hope they will last longer do to write ups. Put an Odyssey in the watercraft at the same time. Hope this season works out better.
Smart choice. A few of us wave jumpers have been replacing our YUSA batteries on average every other year...and not the batteries fault actually, because they do last a long time under normal usage. But if the ski spends any time vertical (ocean wave jumping), tilted on the trailer while rinsing the saltwater from inside the hull, or rolled upside down temporarily during a fun rollover...this will cause the sulfuric acid to seep outside the battery and work its way up and out of the vent hose. It doesn't take much acid loss to create a partially exposed to air condition of the lead plates. They begin to deform and corrode and that cell goes bad.

Kinda hard to monitor the acid levels while the battery is inside the ski, so this season I'm ordering the Odyssey as well.

I have a Yamaha waverunner with 549 original hours on it... I beat the piss out of it and it still runs like a champ!
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