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Zone 5 02-26-2014 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4080961)
Bill,
Coughlin called me Bill. Modifying lifters in the manner you are speaking is a patch for improper lifter bore clearances. I gone over this with John Callies on several occausions. Grooving the lifters or grooving the bores, Comp has tool for doing this to the lifter bores. If the bores are not correct when measured during pre assembly then this process can be preformed. That is engine building 101. I'm glad you posted that about grooving the lifter bore after the fact and you have it in writing now.

You are just beyond dumb. You have never built an engine in your life, you don't even know how to unbolt a GM throttle body, and now you are trying to quote engine building info? Your BS might work with the posers you hang out with but it doesn't work on OSO.

Zone 5 02-26-2014 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4080930)
Bill stated he is not an employee of a shop and now your saying he is not in business for himself. Interesting.

Its hard for me to believe that you can sell someone anything when you can't even read your own post and my reply to it. Everyone but you knows where S30 works. Everyone knows he doesn't own it. Your BS has been the same for years. You don't like the story so you change it, The people you are screwing on your car forums might buy this, but no one on OSO does. you are, and have always been a poser.

You make Fred at Trick Marine look honest.

sutphen 30 02-26-2014 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4080945)
Damn now its gone from 2 blower engines to 5. Bill any engine builder knows there are series of lifters. Price dictates what they want to use. Morel at that time had the 4606, similar to the Pro Series Crane, and the 4845, similar to the Crane Ultra Pro.. Both lifters are in use today. We have a set of AFR heads hear at the shop. Marine build, 540, that was done 7 years ago. My cam and a set of 4606. It has 280hrs on these lifters no issue. I have 2 sets of 4845 that were sent in for rebuild. Not my cams and I did not sell the customer these Morels. They have someone elses name on the tie bar. Marine builds, na, 300 + hours. Point is Bill the lifters although 2 different series are used in Drag, Marine, Truck Pull, Circle track. The lifter has no idea what it is going to be used for. It wasn't the lifters issue of lack of oil Bill.



I've got great customers and they are all good people. You calling them names will ever concrete the idea of you never being in business for yourself. You don't treat people you don't know like that.

Its always been 5 you idiot.

sutphen 30 02-26-2014 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4080961)
Bill,
Coughlin called me Bill. Modifying lifters in the manner you are speaking is a patch for improper lifter bore clearances. I gone over this with John Callies on several occausions. Grooving the lifters or grooving the bores, Comp has tool for doing this to the lifter bores. If the bores are not correct when measured during pre assembly then this process can be preformed. That is engine building 101. I'm glad you posted that about grooving the lifter bore after the fact and you have it in writing now.

first moron,spell Tom's name correctly.second you inept idiot,,I grooved the lifters and took pics of it.so get your facts straight you alcoholic.
and he called you,wrong you dipchit,,we called you about the oiling,,you fumbling for your words,,then I lit you up verbally and hung up on you and fixed the problem.

sutphen 30 02-26-2014 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4081082)
Its always been 5 you idiot.

and just so you can get it straight here are the 5 motors
2 for earl's 540's
2 for dennis 540's
1 for chris 502

SB 02-26-2014 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mrcapsize (Post 4080761)
Would you be interested in slightly used straub cam. You can run 650# over the nose on it. NO WAIT MAYBE MORE! (oh and by the way what difference does it make when and what day i post?)

By any chance, do you know him from a different forum where he has himself protected from the moderator(s) ?

If so, feel free to keep speaking your peace here.

He had done same thing here in the boat boards until everyone figured him out and then finally spoke up. Onlike other performance arena's, he is known for that schit in this arena.

Why he keeps coming back after leaving for better part of a year ? We dunno. Too dumb to stay away I guess.

Zone 5 02-26-2014 05:15 PM

Straub is famous. His piss poor cam designs even make magazine articles[IMG]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original[/IMG]

SB 02-26-2014 06:29 PM

Even a magazine noticed how bad his cams are and put it into print. Priceless.

So much for him telling others it's just a group on OSO that are against him.

Lost 800rpm and almost 10mph. And he charges most people around $700 for a HR cam.

See the specs on that whacked out cam. Normal for him, but brutal in reality.

Mrcapsize 02-26-2014 07:16 PM

Yes I know c-blob on a couple of automotive forums. I ignore him when he is bedazzling people with his B.S. trying to sell something. I apologize to all you boat guys trying be a part of this great thread. A friend of mine read this stuff and called me and said "wow those guys see chris for what he really is". He knows of a couple of big blocks that chris ruined.

abones 02-26-2014 07:17 PM

So this has been some fun reading (as I do not have a dog in this fight) but I do feel bad for those who have been misinformed by the guest of honor in this thread. It seem that those who seek honest advise get hooked up with people who know little about the High Perf game so sorry to see But I don't understand how it perpetuates? I feel very fortunate that my mentors were among the best in the biz.

Zone 5 02-26-2014 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by abones (Post 4081303)
So this has been some fun reading (as I do not have a dog in this fight) but I do feel bad for those who have been misinformed by the guest of honor in this thread. It seem that those who seek honest advise get hooked up with people who know little about the High Perf game so sorry to see But I don't understand how it perpetuates? I feel very fortunate that my mentors were among the best in the biz.

He is a saleman. pure and simple. and good at it. He remembers names/numbers and can talk the talk, so people buy into it. Unfortunatly, he can talk the talk, but he can't walk the walk.

cstraub 02-27-2014 04:47 PM

Walkin the Walk was a win in NJBA this past weekend with Boat 405.

cstraub 02-27-2014 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Zone 5 (Post 4081246)
Straub is famous. His piss poor cam designs even make magazine articles[IMG]http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original[/IMG]

So Timminator from the old HOT Boat days is your go to expert now. Funny all of you attacked him in the day.

cstraub 02-27-2014 04:59 PM

It really is hillarious how small your world is for guys that do this part time, no time, rich parents, no job at......phone has run off the hook here since Jan. 1. Just today going to recam a new COPO.

Scott Foxwell 02-27-2014 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by abones (Post 4081303)
So this has been some fun reading (as I do not have a dog in this fight) but I do feel bad for those who have been misinformed by the guest of honor in this thread. It seem that those who seek honest advise get hooked up with people who know little about the High Perf game so sorry to see But I don't understand how it perpetuates? I feel very fortunate that my mentors were among the best in the biz.

I have yet to read a word of truth here about Straub. Not one. Still the same small minded nare-do-wells here that wouldn't be happy if they didn't have someone to put down. I haven't been on this site in years and it's still the same people crying the same sad song. It's always someone else's fault. It's really very comical, those that take themselves so seriously here.

47EXCALIBUR 02-27-2014 05:17 PM

Is this CSTRAUB guy for real. People make mistakes, make good on them and you wont have a bad reputation. This guys sounds like he has trouble running a pair of underwear correctly

Zone 5 02-27-2014 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4081805)
So Timminator from the old HOT Boat days is your go to expert now. Funny all of you attacked him in the day.

forget the reply. Doesn't matter and not the point, Read what the guy who paid you money says about your garbage cam pick. Must be great to spend $700 for a cam and go slower, and lose HP. 10 mph loss in speed. But I'm sure you will come up with some BS answer. Facts are facts, you have no clue on marine cams. stick to your buddies that claim they can do a full head port in 2 hours and your unemployed contractors that one day chose to tell Tony from AFR that his heads were junk. Yup, you have surrounded yourselves with real prizes.

Zone 5 02-27-2014 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4081808)
It really is hillarious how small your world is for guys that do this part time, no time, rich parents, no job at......phone has run off the hook here since Jan. 1. Just today going to recam a new COPO.

Still selling cast cams and charging billet prices? wait till they start breaking. Will they still protect you on your poser sites then?
I'll bet your phone rings off the hook. sell parts at cost to people and they buy them. Then you suck them into your cam game and charge double what anyone else does. and they go slower......

sutphen 30 02-27-2014 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4081808)
It really is hillarious how small your world is for guys that do this part time, no time, rich parents, no job at......phone has run off the hook here since Jan. 1. Just today going to recam a new COPO.

braggers =major liars

ctroll the conman

sutphen 30 02-27-2014 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by 47EXCALIBUR (Post 4081818)
Is this CSTRAUB guy for real. People make mistakes, make good on them and you wont have a bad reputation. This guys sounds like he has trouble running a pair of underwear correctly

he's the azzclown that told everyone that he knew I had no boat.just more lies from the lying conman ctroll.

abones 02-27-2014 07:30 PM

I would be impressed if he could make some better cams for Mercury so they can make more power from the 1350s and 1650s but until then ?????

Rattlesnake Jake 02-28-2014 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by abones (Post 4081905)
I would be impressed if he could make some better cams for Mercury so they can make more power from the 1350s and 1650s but until then ?????

Are you saying he doesn't design Cams for Mercury?? OMG...

Zone 5 02-28-2014 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Jake (Post 4082097)
Are you saying he does design Cams for Mercury?? OMG...

Great, now he will be editing your post like I did and it will be all over. Those car guys will love it. Guys with ZR-1 Vette's will be ringing his phone off the hook.

Rattlesnake Jake 02-28-2014 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Zone 5 (Post 4082346)
Great, now he will be editing your post like I did and it will be all over. Those car guys will love it. Guys with ZR-1 Vette's will be ringing his phone off the hook.

Both before & after..:evilb::evilb:

cstraub 02-28-2014 03:57 PM

Guys I appreciate everything, record sales month in camshafts and Morel lifters. Good talking to the 2 board members this week.

liquidlounge 02-28-2014 04:08 PM

Hey Cstaub- not to derail this wonderful thread, but is the .750 wheel Morel lifter actually .750? The ones my engine builder got me measure under .750 but are quite a bit bigger than .700. The wheel is fully exposed. They came in a plain box. Does this sound like a Morel lifter to you? Thanks in advance, Dave

Zone 5 02-28-2014 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4082396)
Guys I appreciate everything, record sales month in camshafts and Morel lifters. Good talking to the 2 board members this week.

As PT Barnum said, more suckers born every minute. Must have got chump to buy a cam for a motor so you have 1 sale this month and none last. guess that would be a record. Did you screw him with cast too?

cstraub 03-01-2014 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by liquidlounge (Post 4082408)
Hey Cstaub- not to derail this wonderful thread, but is the .750 wheel Morel lifter actually .750? The ones my engine builder got me measure under .750 but are quite a bit bigger than .700. The wheel is fully exposed. They came in a plain box. Does this sound like a Morel lifter to you? Thanks in advance, Dave

Dave, yes on the non encapsulated lifters in .842" and .875" diameter the wheel is .750". They use the same axle and wheel assembly on all the lifters, hyd or solid except if you get the upgraded NBA or the Bushing. I measured some pairs in some 4603's I have on the shelf and all 5 pairs measured the wheel is .750". There are some "knockoff" stuff out there. Somebody has sent the Morel lifter over to be copied in China. They did copy the 4603 but the set I got a hold of and sent to Morel had wheels that varied from .690" to .720" in diameter. The leak down time on these lifters was 11 seconds. They even copied the Morel clamshell packaging. It is very simlar but has some differences.

Now the 5374 hyd roller is the street series. It is an encapsulated design with a .700" wheel. You can barely see it.

sutphen 30 03-01-2014 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4082702)
Somebody has sent the Morel lifter over to be copied in China. .

and there we have it,,you selling them w/ the chinese junk heads you have.friggen conman
probably the 5 sets you sold us came from there.

you can't even install an intake and your using and reading a micrometer.why not give the real author of your info credit,you fraud.

cstraub 03-01-2014 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Zone 5 (Post 4082479)
As PT Barnum said, more suckers born every minute. Must have got chump to buy a cam for a motor so you have 1 sale this month and none last. guess that would be a record. Did you screw him with cast too?

Feb 25th, 14, 08:30 AM
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Re: New SBC build

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Not too many miles on this yet but, I have to give credit to Chris Straub for the cam and his help in influencing the parts package. The specs are smaller than I was thinking but, it has terrific response already (sure to improve with tuning) and revs hard to the rev limiter at 6400. The cam does it all!

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=693506

http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253045
Please note ATK is the largest production engine builder in he country. They can go to anyone for custom cams.

Doug, I'm very sorry to inform you but its a few more than 1 sir.

sutphen 30 03-01-2014 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4082724)
Not too many miles on this yet but, I have to give credit to Chris Straub for the cam and his help in influencing the parts package. The specs are smaller than I was thinking but, it has terrific response already (sure to improve with tuning) and revs hard to the rev limiter at 6400. The cam does it all!

.

yeah,butt dyno's are so accurate.conman.

cstraub 03-01-2014 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4082707)
and there we have it,,you selling them w/ the chinese junk heads you have.friggen conman
probably the 5 sets you sold us came from there.

you can't even install an intake and your using and reading a micrometer.why not give the real author of your info credit,you fraud.

Bill, Bill, Bill,
Morel lifters come in boxes or Clamshells. All of my lifters except for the occausional custom set, had to get a customer a set of Bushing .903" with offsets for a Pontiac, then another customer needed double offsets for a SB Ford build and those came in the craft boxes, come in the clamshell. They have my PO on them from the order and they are all marked on the tie bars.

sutphen 30 03-02-2014 10:01 AM

conman,conman,conman,
talk all you want,the fact that YOU sold them and spec them,,and they failed to oil is a screw up by you.A good conman,always has an excuse and tries to talk intelligent.fact is,bullet designs your cams.
now go learn to change a spark plug and sell some chinese heads and lifters,,conman,

sutphen 30 03-02-2014 10:03 AM

see,I actually build engines and not just chevy bbc,,my personal dmax to take me into the 11's all at 7100lbs.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2hd5pbk.jpg

shaun harrington 03-02-2014 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4083161)
conman,conman,conman,
talk all you want,the fact that YOU sold them and spec them,,and they failed to oil is a screw up by you.A good conman,always has an excuse and tries to talk intelligent.fact is,bullet designs your cams.
now go learn to change a spark plug and sell some chinese heads and lifters,,conman,

Hey billy, tell us what you really think of this guy!

The Gitter 03-02-2014 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by dereknkathy (Post 4063409)
bob madera is not the only guy on the planet who knows which end of the cam goes into the block first.

I design all of my own camshaft profiles and lobe selection, world championship winning cams .Generally I use Crane Cams for the majority of my stuff and always are ground with 8620 billet core with iron gear.

Eliminatorshane 03-02-2014 10:52 PM

Hey gutter I think most people are just saying bob knows why he's doing and to use him. Bob is a super nice guy and helps anyone he can. That's all, there's lots of intelligent people here. I did get to see what some on here where saying and are just trying to point people in a good direction. Mr madera from what I've learned hasn't had one fail or not make power. But we all know he's not the only one but helps this forum.

cstraub 03-03-2014 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4083161)
conman,conman,conman,
talk all you want,the fact that YOU sold them and spec them,,and they failed to oil is a screw up by you.A good conman,always has an excuse and tries to talk intelligent.fact is,bullet designs your cams.
now go learn to change a spark plug and sell some chinese heads and lifters,,conman,

http://www.johncalliesinc.com/produc...ProductNo=4606

And I still sell them today. I will give the customer the options he or she has on lifters then they can choose according to what they want to spend. Now it is up to the engine builder to check the tolerances. Lifter bore clearance is no different then checking rod and main clearance. If this is missed and the engine goes down then it is the engine builders fault.


This lifter is used by many cam companies today under their own name and is still one of Morels top sellers.

sutphen 30 03-03-2014 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4083638)
http://www.johncalliesinc.com/produc...ProductNo=4606

And I still sell them today. I will give the customer the options he or she has on lifters then they can choose according to what they want to spend. Now it is up to the engine builder to check the tolerances. Lifter bore clearance is no different then checking rod and main clearance. If this is missed and the engine goes down then it is the engine builders fault.


This lifter is used by many cam companies today under their own name and is still one of Morels top sellers.

you just this stupid,thats not even close to the lifter you stiffed us w/.the oiling had nothing to do w/ lifter to bore clearance, you idiot.If I made the god damn bore loser to oil the upper end the lifter would have failed.Its nice how you get a tiny bit of info and focus on it.
see retard,,I buy an isky lifter and I never have a oiling problem,,I buy 5 sets from you and I mysteriously have a problem.100's of other salespeople lifters,no problem,,5 sets from a boob alcoholic and i have a problem,coincidence,not a chance.you sold us junk.

again,the conman strikes

Zone 5 03-03-2014 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by cstraub (Post 4083638)
http://www.johncalliesinc.com/produc...ProductNo=4606

And I still sell them today. I will give the customer the options he or she has on lifters then they can choose according to what they want to spend. Now it is up to the engine builder to check the tolerances. Lifter bore clearance is no different then checking rod and main clearance. If this is missed and the engine goes down then it is the engine builders fault. .

As all you do is "sell" parts, how can you start telling people what they should and should not do when building an engine? We know that you can not even remove the throttle body from your GM engine, and you are telling people with hundreds of builds what is right and wrong? Everything is always the engine builders fault according to you. Its never anything that you did wrong.

If you have an order for a very specific part, and you send something else, its your fault. This is not politics where you can keep blaming the other guy for ever. You need to take responsibility for all your screw ups.

You sell unmarked lifters in unmarked boxes. WTF knows what they are. Morel,? chinese? and you post an invoice that says Morel. Big deal. I can make an invoice that says anything I want it to.


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