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Old 02-25-2014, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GETTINBYE
I am remembering hearing 1200 rpm above peak torque.
I generally like propping for peak power, or close to it. If you build an engine, wanting to spin it around 5500, you want peak hp to occur near or around 5500. If the HP peaks at 6500, well then you chose incorrect parts, like camshaft for example. Most marine builds will make peak torque 1000-1200 rpm below peak hp, but not always.

The reason to NOT prop at peak torque, are torque loading the drives , and detonation can be more likely at wot because your cylinder pressure is very high.

I've seen many guys build a high performance marine engine, aftermarket heads, cams, etc, and then prop the boat at 5000rpm max , because they want to take it easy on the engine. If 5000 wot tickles your sack, build a 5000rpm engine. But don't build a 6000rpm engine and prop it to 5000.
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
I generally like propping for peak power, or close to it. If you build an engine, wanting to spin it around 5500, you want peak hp to occur near or around 5500. If the HP peaks at 6500, well then you chose incorrect parts, like camshaft for example. Most marine builds will make peak torque 1000-1200 rpm below peak hp, but not always.

The reason to NOT prop at peak torque, are torque loading the drives , and detonation can be more likely at wot because your cylinder pressure is very high.
I've seen many guys build a high performance marine engine, aftermarket heads, cams, etc, and then prop the boat at 5000rpm max , because they want to take it easy on the engine. If 5000 wot tickles your sack, build a 5000rpm engine. But don't build a 6000rpm engine and prop it to 5000.
So this is what I said. Prop at 1200 rpm above peak torque. I am guessing from Budmanll's cam specs he will hit peak torque around 4000-4200ish and peak horsepower around 5400-5600 give or take. I was not implying proping at peak torque.
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Originally Posted by GETTINBYE
So this is what I said. Prop at 1200 rpm above peak torque. I am guessing from Budmanll's cam specs he will hit peak torque around 4000-4200ish and peak horsepower around 5400-5600 give or take. I was not implying proping at peak torque.
Almost all engines will produce peak hp 1200-1400rpm over peak torque. That's just how it works, unless someone f*ked up something.

Usually propping for around 200-300rpm under peak hp in normal conditions gives best results and a little wiggle room for changing load weights, weather, water conditions, and etc.

Going past peak hp is for 4 wheeled vehicles or very short distance acceleration racing.
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My 1200 rpm above peak torque was posted in response to Budmanll's post #13.
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Originally Posted by GETTINBYE
My 1200 rpm above peak torque was posted in response to Budmanll's post #13.
I was continuing on with what you said. Round table discussion, if you will.
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Originally Posted by SB
I was continuing on with what you said. Round table discussion, if you will.
Pass it over here - I need some of that.
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Sure. Here you go.

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Old 02-25-2014, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GETTINBYE
So this is what I said. Prop at 1200 rpm above peak torque. I am guessing from Budmanll's cam specs he will hit peak torque around 4000-4200ish and peak horsepower around 5400-5600 give or take. I was not implying proping at peak torque.
I hear ya. Wasnt saying you did by any means. Was just taking what you said a step further in discussion like SB did.

if you really want to be a bad azz, let Pslonaker build you an engine. Youll see the HP and TQ cross at 5252rpm on the dyno sheet. Amazing stuff.
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No problem guys.
It is kinda strange how the HP & TQ seem to always get along right at that rpm!
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Originally Posted by GETTINBYE
SB & MT
No problem guys.
It is kinda strange how the HP & TQ seem to always get along right at that rpm!
It's not strange, it's magic!
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