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38special 03-09-2014 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by ACrooks69 (Post 4086058)
I ran my first 383 with trick flow twisted wedge G1, 10:1 comp, CS XE264HR-10 212/218 hyd roller and the Kodiaks through the drive and when I finally put through hull on it, you know how much I gained????? Nothing but better sound. REalisitcally that was probably 330-350hp (corrected) to the prop (around 410 at the motor) and it didn't make a difference. I don't know how much more restrictive the Volvo transom is, but with a cam comparable to that I would just run it through the prop.

I thought about this and it would get me on the water lots faster. It's still a lot more power than the 305 that was in the boat. I've read the GLM's are copycats of the Kodiaks and I will make that improvement atleast for this year.

38special 03-10-2014 12:51 PM

I looked at one more cam today. This would be running 1.6 rockers and with the GLM manifolds out the prop. Any opinion's on this Crower grind?


Chevrolet - 262, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350 & 400
Performance level - BeastINT/EXH - Dur @ .050” Lift: 214°/220° RR: 1.5/1.5 Gross Lift: .474”/.498” LSA: 114° RPM: 2100 to 4900 Redline: 5400


Chevrolet Hydraulic Roller Camshaft







Part Number
00401S

Engine Make
Chevrolet

Year
1957-1998

Part Class
Camshaft

Engine Class
Small Block

Camshaft Name
Original

Camshaft Series
Original

Engine Type
V8

Engine Size
262, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350 & 400

Product Type
Hydraulic Roller

Special note*
This cam has a smaller than stock base circle

Valve Lash
.000" intake and .000" exhaust

Lobe center
114

Advertised Duration: Intake / Exhaust
269 / 278

Duration @ .050" Lift: Intake / Exhaust
214 / 220

Lobe Lift: Intake / Exhaust
.316 / .332

Rocker Ratio: Intake / Exhaust
1.5 / 1.5

Rocker Ratio #2: Intake / Exhaust
1.6 / 1.6

Gross Valve Lift: Intake / Exhaust
.474 / .498

Gross Valve Lift #2: Intake / Exhaust
.507 / .531

CID
383

Low RPM
2200

Peak Torque
3400

Peak HP
4900

Redline
5400

CID #2
406

Low RPM #2
2100

Peak Torque #2
3300

Peak HP #2
4800

Redline #2
5300

Grind Number
208HR216

Recommended Kit #1
84544

Recommended Kit #2
84544LM

Trash 03-10-2014 10:13 PM

I run the 483LM EFI grind from Crower. It is a step up or two from the one you list but I don't run through the drive. I can't honestly give you an answer how it would behave exhausting out the prop but I am happy with the cam choice and product.

SB 03-11-2014 10:46 AM

38 Special, you are not doing things 100% the way you wanted when you started this build, therefore you are getting yourself caught in erroneous thoughts.

Stop over thinking.

I would say a 212,218 at .050" on a 112LSA will be fine.

If you want to push it a little, a single pattern 218,218 at .050" with a 112LSA might just do it.

Going to A 114lsa cam in a small block makes it lazy. 112LSA is bad enough, but what we are forced to in the marine world. Outside of boats, we would be 108 or under...mostly under. Just sayin.

Go get a cam and finish the build. Liquid water is coming soon.

ACrooks69 03-11-2014 09:10 PM

I agree with SB. A 212/218 even with a 110 would probably be fine. Ran a comp 260H 212/212 110 with stock exh on the org 5.7, no problems. I'd go the 212/218 hyd roller comp and be done with it.

38special 03-12-2014 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4087882)
38 Special, you are not doing things 100% the way you wanted when you started this build, therefore you are getting yourself caught in erroneous thoughts.

Stop over thinking.

I would say a 212,218 at .050" on a 112LSA will be fine.

If you want to push it a little, a single pattern 218,218 at .050" with a 112LSA might just do it.

Going to A 114lsa cam in a small block makes it lazy. 112LSA is bad enough, but what we are forced to in the marine world. Outside of boats, we would be 108 or under...mostly under. Just sayin.

Go get a cam and finish the build. Liquid water is coming soon.

I am so far removed from where or what I started out with. Lol Now I'm sick of looking at cams I can't hardly take anymore. I had made up my mind on this one today until I had seen you guy's new post. Tell me more about the single pattern 218,218 @.050 with 112LSA. Can it be had in hyd roller and what kind of lift? Is it a bit more aggressive?

Lunati 20080720 (Formerly Part Number 60120) Chevrolet Small Block LT1, LT4, & 1987-Present Hydraulic Roller Voodoo Camshaft RPM Range 1600 - 5600 Lift .507"/.515" [email protected] 211/219 LSA/IAC 112/106
Excellent choice for stock to mildly modified engines, works well with OEM style injection, great inboard/outboard marine cam for economy and sking. Good mileage and torque increase.



RPM Range: 1600 - 5600
Lift with 1.6 Rocker: .507"/.515"
Duration @ .050": 211/219
Advertised Duration: 262/270
LSA/IAC: 112/106
Valve Lash: Hyd/Hyd


Correct me if I am wrong but it looks close to your first recommendation above.

38special 03-12-2014 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by ACrooks69 (Post 4088253)
I agree with SB. A 212/218 even with a 110 would probably be fine. Ran a comp 260H 212/212 110 with stock exh on the org 5.7, no problems. I'd go the 212/218 hyd roller comp and be done with it.

I am listening. How would you compare the 212/218 you mention to the last cam above I post specs on? I read today comps share much of the same design of the lanuti voodoo series.

38special 03-12-2014 01:56 AM

This was the idea for the start of my build and then I ran across the Kellogg stroker crank. Of course I didn't know or even think about headers or a good exhaust when I got it in a boat. 444 ft lb and 470 H.P. from a 350 with the EQ heads and the 108 LSA cam.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...d/viewall.html

chrisf695 03-12-2014 08:17 AM

Just got my 383 and putting it in my powerplay integra

Used the Howards HRS110245-12
225/231
112

Heres my dyno numbers...
http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/...312_091026.jpg

38special 03-12-2014 10:01 AM

Those are the numbers I expected to see when I got done with mine but that was back in the take home a couple of grand a week days. Lol Now it's take home $1,700 every 80 straight + 30 hours more time and a half and the overtime has leaned out a lot so needless to say it has changed the complexion of my build. It's all good, at least I'm working and I am still going to enjoy a 383 in a light boat which is a step up from the 140 mercruiser tri hull that was my first boat.


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