Cam suggestions for 383 build
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I ran my first 383 with trick flow twisted wedge G1, 10:1 comp, CS XE264HR-10 212/218 hyd roller and the Kodiaks through the drive and when I finally put through hull on it, you know how much I gained????? Nothing but better sound. REalisitcally that was probably 330-350hp (corrected) to the prop (around 410 at the motor) and it didn't make a difference. I don't know how much more restrictive the Volvo transom is, but with a cam comparable to that I would just run it through the prop.
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I looked at one more cam today. This would be running 1.6 rockers and with the GLM manifolds out the prop. Any opinion's on this Crower grind?
Chevrolet - 262, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350 & 400
Performance level - BeastINT/EXH - Dur @ .050” Lift: 214°/220° RR: 1.5/1.5 Gross Lift: .474”/.498” LSA: 114° RPM: 2100 to 4900 Redline: 5400
Chevrolet Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
Part Number
00401S
Engine Make
Chevrolet
Year
1957-1998
Part Class
Camshaft
Engine Class
Small Block
Camshaft Name
Original
Camshaft Series
Original
Engine Type
V8
Engine Size
262, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350 & 400
Product Type
Hydraulic Roller
Special note*
This cam has a smaller than stock base circle
Valve Lash
.000" intake and .000" exhaust
Lobe center
114
Advertised Duration: Intake / Exhaust
269 / 278
Duration @ .050" Lift: Intake / Exhaust
214 / 220
Lobe Lift: Intake / Exhaust
.316 / .332
Rocker Ratio: Intake / Exhaust
1.5 / 1.5
Rocker Ratio #2: Intake / Exhaust
1.6 / 1.6
Gross Valve Lift: Intake / Exhaust
.474 / .498
Gross Valve Lift #2: Intake / Exhaust
.507 / .531
CID
383
Low RPM
2200
Peak Torque
3400
Peak HP
4900
Redline
5400
CID #2
406
Low RPM #2
2100
Peak Torque #2
3300
Peak HP #2
4800
Redline #2
5300
Grind Number
208HR216
Recommended Kit #1
84544
Recommended Kit #2
84544LM
Chevrolet - 262, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350 & 400
Performance level - BeastINT/EXH - Dur @ .050” Lift: 214°/220° RR: 1.5/1.5 Gross Lift: .474”/.498” LSA: 114° RPM: 2100 to 4900 Redline: 5400
Chevrolet Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
Part Number
00401S
Engine Make
Chevrolet
Year
1957-1998
Part Class
Camshaft
Engine Class
Small Block
Camshaft Name
Original
Camshaft Series
Original
Engine Type
V8
Engine Size
262, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350 & 400
Product Type
Hydraulic Roller
Special note*
This cam has a smaller than stock base circle
Valve Lash
.000" intake and .000" exhaust
Lobe center
114
Advertised Duration: Intake / Exhaust
269 / 278
Duration @ .050" Lift: Intake / Exhaust
214 / 220
Lobe Lift: Intake / Exhaust
.316 / .332
Rocker Ratio: Intake / Exhaust
1.5 / 1.5
Rocker Ratio #2: Intake / Exhaust
1.6 / 1.6
Gross Valve Lift: Intake / Exhaust
.474 / .498
Gross Valve Lift #2: Intake / Exhaust
.507 / .531
CID
383
Low RPM
2200
Peak Torque
3400
Peak HP
4900
Redline
5400
CID #2
406
Low RPM #2
2100
Peak Torque #2
3300
Peak HP #2
4800
Redline #2
5300
Grind Number
208HR216
Recommended Kit #1
84544
Recommended Kit #2
84544LM
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I run the 483LM EFI grind from Crower. It is a step up or two from the one you list but I don't run through the drive. I can't honestly give you an answer how it would behave exhausting out the prop but I am happy with the cam choice and product.
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38 Special, you are not doing things 100% the way you wanted when you started this build, therefore you are getting yourself caught in erroneous thoughts.
Stop over thinking.
I would say a 212,218 at .050" on a 112LSA will be fine.
If you want to push it a little, a single pattern 218,218 at .050" with a 112LSA might just do it.
Going to A 114lsa cam in a small block makes it lazy. 112LSA is bad enough, but what we are forced to in the marine world. Outside of boats, we would be 108 or under...mostly under. Just sayin.
Go get a cam and finish the build. Liquid water is coming soon.
Stop over thinking.
I would say a 212,218 at .050" on a 112LSA will be fine.
If you want to push it a little, a single pattern 218,218 at .050" with a 112LSA might just do it.
Going to A 114lsa cam in a small block makes it lazy. 112LSA is bad enough, but what we are forced to in the marine world. Outside of boats, we would be 108 or under...mostly under. Just sayin.
Go get a cam and finish the build. Liquid water is coming soon.
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I agree with SB. A 212/218 even with a 110 would probably be fine. Ran a comp 260H 212/212 110 with stock exh on the org 5.7, no problems. I'd go the 212/218 hyd roller comp and be done with it.
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38 Special, you are not doing things 100% the way you wanted when you started this build, therefore you are getting yourself caught in erroneous thoughts.
Stop over thinking.
I would say a 212,218 at .050" on a 112LSA will be fine.
If you want to push it a little, a single pattern 218,218 at .050" with a 112LSA might just do it.
Going to A 114lsa cam in a small block makes it lazy. 112LSA is bad enough, but what we are forced to in the marine world. Outside of boats, we would be 108 or under...mostly under. Just sayin.
Go get a cam and finish the build. Liquid water is coming soon.
Stop over thinking.
I would say a 212,218 at .050" on a 112LSA will be fine.
If you want to push it a little, a single pattern 218,218 at .050" with a 112LSA might just do it.
Going to A 114lsa cam in a small block makes it lazy. 112LSA is bad enough, but what we are forced to in the marine world. Outside of boats, we would be 108 or under...mostly under. Just sayin.
Go get a cam and finish the build. Liquid water is coming soon.
Lunati 20080720 (Formerly Part Number 60120) Chevrolet Small Block LT1, LT4, & 1987-Present Hydraulic Roller Voodoo Camshaft RPM Range 1600 - 5600 Lift .507"/.515" [email protected] 211/219 LSA/IAC 112/106
Excellent choice for stock to mildly modified engines, works well with OEM style injection, great inboard/outboard marine cam for economy and sking. Good mileage and torque increase.
RPM Range: 1600 - 5600
Lift with 1.6 Rocker: .507"/.515"
Duration @ .050": 211/219
Advertised Duration: 262/270
LSA/IAC: 112/106
Valve Lash: Hyd/Hyd
Correct me if I am wrong but it looks close to your first recommendation above.
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I am listening. How would you compare the 212/218 you mention to the last cam above I post specs on? I read today comps share much of the same design of the lanuti voodoo series.
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This was the idea for the start of my build and then I ran across the Kellogg stroker crank. Of course I didn't know or even think about headers or a good exhaust when I got it in a boat. 444 ft lb and 470 H.P. from a 350 with the EQ heads and the 108 LSA cam.
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Those are the numbers I expected to see when I got done with mine but that was back in the take home a couple of grand a week days. Lol Now it's take home $1,700 every 80 straight + 30 hours more time and a half and the overtime has leaned out a lot so needless to say it has changed the complexion of my build. It's all good, at least I'm working and I am still going to enjoy a 383 in a light boat which is a step up from the 140 mercruiser tri hull that was my first boat.



