Why this cam in a 420?
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I'm not positive, but did your boat come from Illinois? If it is the boat I am thinking of, I thought at one point it had small superchargers. Either way, that cam sucks.
Honestly, I had one of those 402 Formulas. They are friggin tanks. I had around 600HP per side, and a 25P 4 blade netted me around 5400RPM, 70mph in some chop and trimmed out. That was full roller engines, Dart aluminum heads, stellings headers, 5lbs of boost.
I think a 23P prop is too much for that boat, even if you had true 420HP engines. Get the engines in good health, and I think you're gonna end up with some 21P, or even 19P 4 blades. With 400HP merc's, those boats ran around 55mph at best. Try some 21P Merc Revolution 4 blades. My 402 liked those props the best. Planed great, good cruise, and good top end.
Honestly, I had one of those 402 Formulas. They are friggin tanks. I had around 600HP per side, and a 25P 4 blade netted me around 5400RPM, 70mph in some chop and trimmed out. That was full roller engines, Dart aluminum heads, stellings headers, 5lbs of boost.
I think a 23P prop is too much for that boat, even if you had true 420HP engines. Get the engines in good health, and I think you're gonna end up with some 21P, or even 19P 4 blades. With 400HP merc's, those boats ran around 55mph at best. Try some 21P Merc Revolution 4 blades. My 402 liked those props the best. Planed great, good cruise, and good top end.
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I'm not positive, but did your boat come from Illinois? If it is the boat I am thinking of, I thought at one point it had small superchargers. Either way, that cam sucks.
Honestly, I had one of those 402 Formulas. They are friggin tanks. I had around 600HP per side, and a 25P 4 blade netted me around 5400RPM, 70mph in some chop and trimmed out. That was full roller engines, Dart aluminum heads, stellings headers, 5lbs of boost.
I think a 23P prop is too much for that boat, even if you had true 420HP engines. Get the engines in good health, and I think you're gonna end up with some 21P, or even 19P 4 blades. With 400HP merc's, those boats ran around 55mph at best. Try some 21P Merc Revolution 4 blades. My 402 liked those props the best. Planed great, good cruise, and good top end.
Honestly, I had one of those 402 Formulas. They are friggin tanks. I had around 600HP per side, and a 25P 4 blade netted me around 5400RPM, 70mph in some chop and trimmed out. That was full roller engines, Dart aluminum heads, stellings headers, 5lbs of boost.
I think a 23P prop is too much for that boat, even if you had true 420HP engines. Get the engines in good health, and I think you're gonna end up with some 21P, or even 19P 4 blades. With 400HP merc's, those boats ran around 55mph at best. Try some 21P Merc Revolution 4 blades. My 402 liked those props the best. Planed great, good cruise, and good top end.
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Griff, you know better. lol. http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...-vs-440-a.html
The original 420 is a Ultradyne cam but you are right the Crane cam is a close substitute and after talking to Bob I was very happy using it in a motor I built a few years ago.
As for the Crane being readily available,
Summit - Estimated Ship Date: 4/15/2014 (3+ weeks)
Amazon - Not available
Jegs - is down now but the last time I checked was weeks also.
and I wouldn't trust any of them to ship when they say they can. I waited a couple months and then canceled my order when I found one on eBay (new in its original box, almost wanted to keep it for nostalgia reasons).
The original 420 is a Ultradyne cam but you are right the Crane cam is a close substitute and after talking to Bob I was very happy using it in a motor I built a few years ago.
As for the Crane being readily available,
Summit - Estimated Ship Date: 4/15/2014 (3+ weeks)
Amazon - Not available
Jegs - is down now but the last time I checked was weeks also.
and I wouldn't trust any of them to ship when they say they can. I waited a couple months and then canceled my order when I found one on eBay (new in its original box, almost wanted to keep it for nostalgia reasons).
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Do you know if your engines are original to the boat? Wonder what size intake valve they have in the heads?
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Mild, they are not original located previous owner and was told he bought a 1989 357 and swapped the motors before he sold the 402 im going to measure the intake valves this weekend whenI get back to the lake



