Yes they CP / Hardin has that since 2011 for sale if not a tad longer. I do not know any longevity / results of that system they are selling so I can not comment for that cat eliminator.

For the record I can not do that install nor remove the cats FROM a EC engine. EC = emission control. The reasons why is because all that is federal mandated and I hold a couple of LIC and Marine dealer LIC and even a boat builder LIC.

Kind of the same results as a auto dealer LIC removing a cat from a state register auto thats street driven -- its a huge fine and can mean any LIC pulled. I am not risking any of that. UNLESS the original app is over 500 hp from OEM stock build then I can do it.

See the first thing when a OEM dealer repowers a boat using OEM engines and related parts - that OEM wants HULL ID and engine serial number. That OEM will and can only sell you the required federal law engines if its a EC engine from the start / when it was a new built boat. You have to provide a hull ID to get OEM engines for the past 9 years now, If one does not provide an hull for a repower - one does not get that OEM engine. Just saying. Things changed 9 years ago for all marine engines under 500 hp actually for all boats.

I have a story and I think it came from advice on wakeworld from a fellow wakeboard owner. He brought his boat in a month ago to me and self inflicted about 7 k worth of damage on his CAT engine / wake boat. One has to watch out for the advice one receives. There is good advice and really bad advice out there for the taking. Just saying.

Why remove the cats - ? There is no power gain there - cars with 600 hp and way above have cats with no power loss plus if you board or surf behind the boat U WANT CATS. You are not sucking down as much of the harmful emissions then. Thats the reason they are in place for health concern for boarders cause people have died in the past from the toxic emissions. Why do you think all wake board boats since basically 2006 have cats ?? when they were not even federal mandated ? Cleaner air behind the boat so people can play and the manu s do not have more lawsuits from emission related deaths.

Also so much easier working on boats from a health stand point with cats. At the end of the day easier on lungs if you know what I mean

IF YOU HAVE KIDS whom board or play behind the boat LEAVE THE CATS installed. I promise

the listing for race apps on the CAT eliminator is so CARB and Emission laws do not get on the sellers nor manu back causing them to not sell it nor fines. Kind of like the surgeon general that stamps all boxes of cigs stating they cause cancer but still allows the sales of them for making my point.

The eliminator is going to do ZERO anything for u leaving the cats in there trying to fix real issues that the engine side is producing. That set up the cat eliminator is for one is whom wants to remover the cats that has a perfect running engine or issue with the cats themselves only.

Take your boat in to a real shop to get it fixed and have them run the engine serial number for possible recals and updates and service bulletins to further correct procedure whatever applies to your engine and manu date code / serial number.

Wake world is not not a boat repair facility along with the many darts thrown for ur issues. I doubt that 99.99 percent people on most public forums even know any current fault codes onan EC marine engine . Also Diacom is not the best scan tool to use for Mercruiser EC engines especially with DTS. Yes currently Diacom got G3 updated but still Merc g3 scan scan tool is the best for MERC cat engines especially if one has DTS cats

Are you saying you have FAULT CODES 48 and 50 ???

I do not recall any 48 or 50 Fault ID codes for Merc cat PCM 09 or Merc PCM 112 based control engines. Are you sure you have the most current scan tool thats up to date for Merc cat engines ? I do recall fault ID # 49 and # 51 but IF I recall correctly 48 and 50 Fault ID codes is not real fault codes for Merc cat engines. G3 codes for Merc ?

With that said I am going off the top of my head but do not remember 48 and 50 fault ID codes ever period. I would have to look that up to be 100 percent sure but I am 98 percent sure they 48 / 50 are not faults. I do not have any of that info handy currently to make sure I am 100 percent correct.

With that said you have 48 and 50 fault ID codes ?? or am I misreading your post above ?

he reported it cured it for now but in the spring will know more with more run times as how I took his post.. most of the time something is causing the o2 to possible fail -- not the o2 just failing because. Yes that can happen as well. but the odds are something is causing the o2 fail. Read post 23 and 33 of mine...... also connections / harnesses as well can be in the mix

Bingo YES like i said if you have some of those set ups installed then a fault is NOT normal. EXample if you have DTS and steering angle then you have steering position --- if you DO NOT have steering angle then that fault will show on certain models. There was time down the road the NON install set ups did not show codes. Want to say late 2000 s. They defaulted but not to a fault code.