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Old 12-20-2014 | 04:28 PM
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Well I have the million-dollar question I bought this cigarette in October drove it once. winterized and put it away. Thanks giving weekend I fabbed up some things on the trailer to get it up to par for the 2015 season and good old Illinois weather decided to get up to 55 60 degrees. So naturally I wanted to go out and do a little test and tune on the trailer and while I was at the lake might as well take the boat for a hot lap or two since I didn't get to drive it. midway through my hot lap I checked the oil. There was water in the oill long story short pulled the heads off and take him to a machine shop heads are warped the The springs are worn. And valves were leaking not seating properly scorched firm obviously had gotten hot. Supposedly the motor had 30 hours on it on a freshly rebuilt the machinist said definitely not new heads definitely had problems. I don't know even for sure if the block is cracked yet obviously this is just the start of my problems. The million dollar question is should I call the previous owner and asked for money. He's not answering my texts or phone calls now. He did at first but now he won't. I understand fully the used game buying used vehicles boats cars etc. and etc. and that nothing as a warranty and that when you bought it it's yours it's your problem now. But I also believe that if you pay the 50k for something the damn thing should run at least for a month or two not be jacked up right out of the gate!!! Especially when he promised you the motors were fresh and Run perfect no problems at all not sure what to do don't want to really be that guy call the owner for money but I spent A lot of money on this and I think that he isn't telling the truth completely and that I feel that it should run longer I want to Hear what is your guys take on this is. Help me out
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Old 12-20-2014 | 04:36 PM
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You bought a top gun with hawk power correct? While it's not right, the price isn't too high for needing a bit of work. And continuing to try and contact the previous owner is just going to waste time and aggravate you more. Did you get receipts for the rebuilds? If not that is why I assume the power is beat and junk if they don't have receipts.
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Old 12-20-2014 | 04:52 PM
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I think that here in Michigan the million dollar question would be; Does the bill of sale say "sold as is" or words to that effect. If not and the seller deliberately concealed a problem then you might have recourse. If it says "as is" you are screwed.
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Old 12-20-2014 | 04:54 PM
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Maybe the previous owner thought that the motors were fresh with 30 hours on them...
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Old 12-20-2014 | 05:17 PM
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I'd be having a nice long talk with whoever did your prepurchase mechanical inspection. Thatshould have shown on the leakdown test etc.....
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Old 12-20-2014 | 05:36 PM
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It ran good in October, now you have issues with it? Whether it was bought right or not it's not the sellers problem. 30hrs are used engines in my opinion. Did the seller refuse a sea trial is that why you think he might be hiding something?
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Old 12-20-2014 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
I think that here in Michigan the million dollar question would be; Does the bill of sale say "sold as is" or words to that effect. If not and the seller deliberately concealed a problem then you might have recourse. If it says "as is" you are screwed.
It's buyer beware, I'm sure seller did not put on it warranty implied. The situation just sucks though.
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Old 12-20-2014 | 05:44 PM
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this might not be what you want to hear but,as a buyer it is up to you to do a good check of the boat,including the engines before you buy it.if the seller can,t validate that the engines are rebuilt with 30 hours,than you must price it as not with rebuilt engines,same for the drives and all the mechanical,s on the boat.in this day and age you can,t just believe what a seller said,you need proof.
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Old 12-20-2014 | 06:00 PM
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Mike is right. Its unfortunate, but thats powerboating.

In this day and age, everyone thinks they are an engine builder. You see more half azz engine builds these days than ever. Guys who honestly have no business doing a tune up, let alone complete overhauls on the engines.

While I think that mercury may have left some things on the table when it comes to performance, at least when you buy a boat with stock merc engines, you know what you're getting. Once someone has been in them, I consider them in need of a rebuild. Then if they turn out ok, its a nice bonus.

If the heads are junk, I'd strongly recommend going thru the shortblocks as well at this time.
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Old 12-20-2014 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rookie
It's buyer beware, I'm sure seller did not put on it warranty implied. The situation just sucks though.
Not so fast:

"Implied Warranties

Most consumer purchases are covered by an implied warranty of merchantability, which means it is guaranteed to work as claimed. For instance, a vacuum cleaner that does not create enough suction to clean an average floor is in breach of the implied warranty of merchantability. Federal law defines "merchantable" by the following criteria:

They must conform to the standards of the trade as applicable to the contract for sale.
They must be fit for the purposes such goods are ordinarily used, even if the buyer ordered them for use otherwise.
They must be uniform as to quality and quantity, within tolerances of the contract for sale.
They must be packaged and labeled per the contract for sale.
They must meet the specifications on the package labels, even if not so specified by the contract for sale.
Even used goods are covered, although some states allow retailers of either used or new goods to invalidate the implied warranty by stating "sold as is."

If you don't write "as is" or "with all it's faults" on a bill of sale then you are leaving yourself wide open for liability.
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