Originally Posted by BUP

Accon is the way to go in whatever you prefer pull up or pop up. If needed I can see what I could sell them for to anyone. I am dealer for them as well.

Originally Posted by Padraig

My 280 originally came with standard 8 inch cleats on the bow, midship and stern. I got tired of stubbing by toe and almost tripping so I replaced them all with 8 inch flush pull up cleats. Used 1/2 inch or 5/8 inch lines with no problem.

Fast forward to the VR 1. It came with 8 inch pull ups on the stern and bow. Midship it had these silly 45.5 inch pull up cleats that were miserable even with a 3/8 inch line. I had made up my mind to replace them and was thinking about using the 6 inch ones. Luckily my wife decided to give me the 8 inch model cleats for Christmas. When I mentioned that I had been thinking of a smaller cleat she said that I was forgetting that often we had to double up with a mooring line and a line to hang a fender. Smartest thing I ever did was to marry that girl.

Padraig

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL

I love the cleats that come on Apaches.

Originally Posted by Sydwayz

My cleat was not an Accon. They are no longer available, which is why I had to fix it, or replace all of them on the boat.
I heated it up a little, and coaxed it back into shape with some force.

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FWIW, I LOVE these cleats. No one else can figure out how to use them so I have to teach lessons for newbs on my boat. However, you use them just like any other cleat, and you don't have to worry about the lines overwhelming the cleat.