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Old 03-21-2016 | 08:16 AM
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I've ran the High Rpm Morel lifter with 30wt 40wt and 20w50. 0 lash, 1/4 turn 1/2 turn and full turn. Never had any ticking noises from lifters. I usually adjust oil viscosity according to outside temp. Ran up to 60wt with hydraulic lifters (not Morel) during the dog days of summer. I'd never try running that heavy of an oil when it's cold. Motors don't turn over well with heavy wt. oil in cold weather. I've always used HV oil pump in my boat motors 80+ lbs at idle got over 100 running. My personal educated guess at the lifter dilemma is its either got to be to much clearance or oil system delivery. I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree in regards to running 5w30 15w50 or whatever. To many guys running different brands and grades of oil and end up with the same issue with the lifter. Time to look at it from a different perspective.
BB, you were running 60 wt oil with 100+ lbs of oil pressure? That's not far from gear lube! That had to have put an incredible load on the distributor drive gear. Were you running one of the bronze ones for a billet cam, or one ones?
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Old 03-21-2016 | 08:28 AM
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Mike what you run for seat pressure typically?
it depends on the cam used but usually in the 200 lb range.
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Old 03-21-2016 | 04:15 PM
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So is lifter noise at cold start considered normal? Will it cause long term issues? Are people accepting of the noise? I'm actively exploring another set of lifters. What are other people doing?
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Old 03-21-2016 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
So is lifter noise at cold start considered normal? Will it cause long term issues? Are people accepting of the noise? I'm actively exploring another set of lifters. What are other people doing?
FWIW I asked my engine builder about this, he said once you start getting over .570ish lift hyd rollers can make some noise. As he said "your not running stock cam profiles and valve springs anymore"
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Old 03-21-2016 | 09:30 PM
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FWIW I asked my engine builder about this, he said once you start getting over .570ish lift hyd rollers can make some noise. As he said "your not running stock cam profiles and valve springs anymore"
Hmm interesting. We are running a stock cam. Guess he meant not stock comparing it to common black motor cams?
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Old 03-22-2016 | 04:54 AM
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my johnsons don't make noise at all, I am running 681 lift..

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FWIW I asked my engine builder about this, he said once you start getting over .570ish lift hyd rollers can make some noise. As he said "your not running stock cam profiles and valve springs anymore"
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Old 03-22-2016 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
my johnsons don't make noise at all, I am running 681 lift..
Was going to post our stock lifters didn't make any noise either.
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Old 03-23-2016 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
Hmm interesting. We are running a stock cam. Guess he meant not stock comparing it to common black motor cams?
Yes compared to mild black motor cams
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Old 03-23-2016 | 10:24 AM
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my johnson don't make noise at all, I am running 6" lift..

Too much info buddy!
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Old 03-23-2016 | 11:42 AM
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.721" lift no noise. Various weights of oil.
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