Who has had issues with afr heads??
06-07-2015 | 09:06 AM
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Tim ordered each set of heads at separate times, I bet that played a role in things. That may have been mentioned before, but I was just rereading the build thread and it caught my eye.
06-07-2015 | 09:18 AM
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My take on Tim's problems are on at least 2 members of OSO that he talked to daily behind the scenes (I read it here so it has to be true). NOBODY had to step up to the plate and help Tim after the fact because the guilt is on him, his mentors and his "builder" not any of the companies that supplied any of the parts. Bottom line is he spent good money on good parts, listened to the wrong experts and got cheap on the building process. Where were his OSO experts with all their knowledge and numbers before the build ? They sure jumped on the fault ban wagon after the "disaster". A few members including myself tried to give him sound advise but he and his mentors shrugged it off as nonsense "we get away with this all the time". He was given sound numbers from the manufacturers and suppliers for a properly built engine that we build all the time without issues, NOT a engine that has to be on the extreme loose side to compensate for a thermal unstable engine. This subject was discussed early in his rebuild thread and again was discredited by his "experts". They should foot the bill for the new parts not the manufacturer or the supplier.
Was anybody beside his internet "experts" surprised this happened? Not me I saw the "perfect storm" coming on page 1 of his re-power thread.
ICDEDPPL even your "friends" think you are wrong. I think you are an idiot!!!
Was anybody beside his internet "experts" surprised this happened? Not me I saw the "perfect storm" coming on page 1 of his re-power thread.
ICDEDPPL even your "friends" think you are wrong. I think you are an idiot!!!
06-07-2015 | 09:53 AM
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My take on Tim's problems are on at least 2 members of OSO that he talked to daily behind the scenes (I read it here so it has to be true). NOBODY had to step up to the plate and help Tim after the fact because the guilt is on him, his mentors and his "builder" not any of the companies that supplied any of the parts. Bottom line is he spent good money on good parts, listened to the wrong experts and got cheap on the building process. Where were his OSO experts with all their knowledge and numbers before the build ? They sure jumped on the fault ban wagon after the "disaster". A few members including myself tried to give him sound advise but he and his mentors shrugged it off as nonsense "we get away with this all the time". He was given sound numbers from the manufacturers and suppliers for a properly built engine that we build all the time without issues, NOT a engine that has to be on the extreme loose side to compensate for a thermal unstable engine. This subject was discussed early in his rebuild thread and again was discredited by his "experts". They should foot the bill for the new parts not the manufacturer or the supplier.
Was anybody beside his internet "experts" surprised this happened? Not me I saw the "perfect storm" coming on page 1 of his re-power thread.
ICDEDPPL even your "friends" think you are wrong. I think you are an idiot!!!
Was anybody beside his internet "experts" surprised this happened? Not me I saw the "perfect storm" coming on page 1 of his re-power thread.
ICDEDPPL even your "friends" think you are wrong. I think you are an idiot!!!
Last time I checked, this is a website for BOAT OWNERS to discuss their boats, engines, etc. Not a place for you to smear your "Im a holley EFI installer and dealer" posts.
I'm glad that you feel Tim's issues, are his own fault, and insinuating maybe mine as well?? lmao, I live 300 miles from Tim, and have got text updates from him. I can assure YOU, that I never told him his lifter bore clearances were good to go, his valve guide clearances were good to go, that information according to Tim, came right from Bob and Johnson.
Keep patting yourself on the back though, and your buddy. Oso is gonna get very interesting soon when the truths start coming out from many avenues. I already bought two tickets to that show. I say thank you for repeatedly stoking the fire, and also for being the true ASSET you are to this forum.
06-07-2015 | 10:08 AM
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Oh, and Brian41, remember a few months back, when you and your boy got angry because I contacted AFR directly for a head recommendation? You pm'ed me with how uncool it was of me to do so? How you "heard" from YOUR VENDOR, that I made my own interpretation of that recommendation, and brought that to oso. As if I was trying to bullchit the oso community. I can assure you, I am not a liar, nor a bullchitter. Check with the sales department on your speed dial if you wanna hear sales pitches and claims.
Well, for starters, I was unaware that anyone who was interested in purchasing a set of AFR heads, had to go thru your friend. As far as making my own interpretation of what they recommended, which according to you was to "further my agenda", not sure how many ways I could interpret this response from AFR. Keep listening to your buddies on what they think is going on, and how time and time again they have blew their gaskets when the simple thought someone isnt kissing their azz on oso, and start making phone calls and threats.......
Well, for starters, I was unaware that anyone who was interested in purchasing a set of AFR heads, had to go thru your friend. As far as making my own interpretation of what they recommended, which according to you was to "further my agenda", not sure how many ways I could interpret this response from AFR. Keep listening to your buddies on what they think is going on, and how time and time again they have blew their gaskets when the simple thought someone isnt kissing their azz on oso, and start making phone calls and threats.......
06-07-2015 | 10:21 AM
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Oh, and Brian41, remember a few months back, when you and your boy got angry because I contacted AFR directly for a head recommendation? You pm'ed me with how uncool it was of me to do so? How you "heard" from YOUR VENDOR, that I made my own interpretation of that recommendation, and brought that to oso. As if I was trying to bullchit the oso community. I can assure you, I am not a liar, nor a bullchitter. Check with the sales department on your speed dial if you wanna hear sales pitches and claims.
Well, for starters, I was unaware that anyone who was interested in purchasing a set of AFR heads, had to go thru your friend. As far as making my own interpretation of what they recommended, which according to you was to "further my agenda", not sure how many ways I could interpret this response from AFR. Keep listening to your buddies on what they think is going on, and how time and time again they have blew their gaskets when the simple thought someone isnt kissing their azz on oso, and start making phone calls and threats.......
Well, for starters, I was unaware that anyone who was interested in purchasing a set of AFR heads, had to go thru your friend. As far as making my own interpretation of what they recommended, which according to you was to "further my agenda", not sure how many ways I could interpret this response from AFR. Keep listening to your buddies on what they think is going on, and how time and time again they have blew their gaskets when the simple thought someone isnt kissing their azz on oso, and start making phone calls and threats.......
06-07-2015 | 10:24 AM
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My take on Tim's problems are on at least 2 members of OSO that he talked to daily behind the scenes (I read it here so it has to be true). NOBODY had to step up to the plate and help Tim after the fact because the guilt is on him, his mentors and his "builder" not any of the companies that supplied any of the parts. Bottom line is he spent good money on good parts, listened to the wrong experts and got cheap on the building process. Where were his OSO experts with all their knowledge and numbers before the build ? They sure jumped on the fault ban wagon after the "disaster". A few members including myself tried to give him sound advise but he and his mentors shrugged it off as nonsense "we get away with this all the time". He was given sound numbers from the manufacturers and suppliers for a properly built engine that we build all the time without issues, NOT a engine that has to be on the extreme loose side to compensate for a thermal unstable engine. This subject was discussed early in his rebuild thread and again was discredited by his "experts". They should foot the bill for the new parts not the manufacturer or the supplier.
Was anybody beside his internet "experts" surprised this happened? Not me I saw the "perfect storm" coming on page 1 of his re-power thread.
ICDEDPPL even your "friends" think you are wrong. I think you are an idiot!!!
Was anybody beside his internet "experts" surprised this happened? Not me I saw the "perfect storm" coming on page 1 of his re-power thread.
ICDEDPPL even your "friends" think you are wrong. I think you are an idiot!!!
The last thing I did was "cheap out" and "ignored advice" wtf dude. I am sure you have never had any kind of failure because you are perfect well guess what things happen...
By buddy that helped me is by far not a newbie and has 25 years of success so yes he's the issue huh? Victory engines is very successful also...
Not everything was posted I wish I would never have made a build thread and posted anything...
You ASSume you know exactly what was talked about "behind closed doors" you do not...
06-07-2015 | 10:25 AM
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Gravel hauler / desk top dyno operator. 
06-07-2015 | 10:25 AM
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This place has become bs anymore if you don't listen to ONE person you are doomed... Next time I will not post anything at all.
06-07-2015 | 10:29 AM
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