Brian, with all due respect what in the world does that have to due with a persons ability to know engines? not trying to be a Dik but I don't see the relevance. I think this needs to stay above board and as respectful as possible. JMHO

Maybe when I hit it big, I can get a 1970's 24ft pantera, and take a few years scraping funds together to build an engine for it with a custom carb

Yes he has no clue at all what he's doing... Zero...

Find me another 107 mph 353 with engines built by a cable guy..


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Please accept my sincere apology MT.
I certainly wouldn't want to be the reason for you to start one of your pathetic "I'm gonna take my ball and go home" threads.

The ONLY reason Tim Full Force is supposedly getting help from Marine Kinetics, AFR, Johnson

BECAUSE HE WENT PUBLIC and/or Marine Kinetics, AFR, Johnson MADE a MISTAKE!

Get some common sense OSO

I Actually just "defriended" Brian from FB.......used to be just a funny inside joke between my friends! Its even funnier to actually do it! :lolhit:

Because if you are not in marine buisness you cannot know anything at all...

It kills me to see him say that... I know many successful builders and riggers that are not in marine buisness...

Tim, I think you did everything right and you didn`t cheap out on anything. Don`t let some armchair quarter back make you think otherwise.

Thx that's pretty much how I feel, anyone that knows behind the scenes knows the questions asked and answered... That's all I care about really

Boy I am glad I don't have AFR heads!:nhl_fight:

+1 me as well, but then my motors don't make a lot of HP. I did not use an "Engine Designer" but instead just a good old engine dude from Mt Clemens, MI for advise!

Also I called direct to my Cam grinder/ Ultra Dyne and talked to Harold, but back then who da thunk?

I'm sure glad I burned all those ASE certs and traded the Snap-On boxes for servers and routers long ago. You guys are awful hard on anyone who busts knuckles today.. After two decades paying someone else to change my oil, I finally enjoy hacking around on engines again. But only after I'm board surfing all your wives and girlfriends nudie pix you believe are safe an secure in that magical place called the cloud. Everyone's an expert online till their dick pics show up posted on TMZ...

Ya all need to >> :chill-pill:

Welcome Tim from AFR. Nice of you to stop by and add some valuable input about your products here.

Even through all of the static here I've extracted some valuable information to keep in mind. Mainly to leave everything stock, lol.

Man, you guys really know how to take all the fun out of boating. Now every time I take my boat out I will be worried that my AFR heads are going to drop a valve. :helmet::party-smiley-004::poopoo:

Not going to happen. Not a thing wrong with your heads.

Baja Rooster - STOCK IS BOORING. AND SLOW
No thanks

The message here is always have clear and objective communication.

'Ready to run', 'drop-in', 'bolt-on' - subjective

Tolerances, service, operating conditions - objective.

Okay so you took advice from a internet jockey that drives a gravel hauler (please tell us you are leaving the site again), ICDEDPPL from what I have read works on bicycles, you did not pay your qualified machinist to build the engines, you did not dyno the engines, you continued to run the inferior by-pass system without properly clearancing the engines for that application and ruined perfectly good parts because you did not cheeeeaaaaped out on the build....................have you lost your facking mind!!!!!! THATS THE DEFINITION OF FACKING UP A BUILD!!!!!!!!!

So far the only problem I see that has to do anything with a Manufacturer is possibly the wrong springs were in 1 of the engines (not the 1 that had problems and ordered at a different time), but again a QUALIFIED builder would have caught that.


Reread your build thread...........you were steered in the right direction from the beginning and swore you would not cheapen the build but took the other direction (Internet cowboys) and now want everybody to pay.....YOUR bill !!!!!


The only reason you are getting anything is because of the internet exposure..........take that to the bank. If I had anything to do with it you would have got the bill you deserve!!!!


I am no longer a paying advertiser on this site for a reason........every time I spoke out against the donkeys that think they are "that" I would get in trouble because I was to be held at a higher standard........... I choose to fight with the PIGS!!!!!


MT crawl in the hole you came from.


PS............... I am not worried about losing business over this.......... I can only hope........I am waaaaay toooo busy!!!!!!

Abones, Sorry to see you involved..............my answer is EVERYTHING.

The people that are "dedicated" to their trade and work with the items used in it on a daily basis should hold more credibility than somebody that drives a gravel hauler giving engine advise he read about on the internet.

You have been to my shop and have seen my dedication to what I do but would take MT's advise over mine ?

Yeah but if MT gives someone advice and they don't take it he gets mad takes his ball home with him. Then he tells his friend Dan and Dan shows up and calls everyone names.

Is Dan the bicycle repairman? You mentioned balls.....they aren't teabagging each other are they? Just a question.........don't mean to hurt anybodies feelings, just seams that they are close....too close.

Is it winter already?

Does anyone realize; name calling and personal attacks isn't going to resolve, any of this? It's just going to turn everyone into enemies, others come on and hear the drama, they leave.
These parts, engine block are not in front of me for inspection, so I will not speculate failure. Do the lifters, rocker arms, heads, need to go back to the manufacturer's, absolutely!!!! Could I determine, if the lifter stuck in bore due to clearance; yes. Does a stuck valve, typically stick a lifter? not usually. Does the bronze burnishing on the valve stems, look like lack of oil? yes.
Did, the manufactures go above and beyond customer service? Yes
Did the parts supplier go above and beyond customer service? Yes
If phone calls were made in reference to possible failure and all was being done in customer satisfaction, determining the cause of failure. Why; is this even posted until the manufactures have determined failure? Why, isn't this held at abeyance until all has been inspected.
No one, not I nor anyone else has the qualifications on this site as boat owners, engine builders, or professionals besides, the manufactures to determine "root cause" of the failure. They see it every day, parts tested, their QA, machining procedures, along with each individual that has strict guidelines, involving their daily jobs. These parts follow, tight tolerances with high standards of manufacturing. Failure of these parts is catastrophic, with thousands of dollars involved. Let the proper, people determine failure and bring forth, the findings of those reports after.

He's not qualified to work on old bikes Brian.

Daddy gave dan a furnace repair business.

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You aren'the the only one that has been speculating this. There are definately signs.

Lighten up a bit......just giving the twins their own medicine.

I feel that there is something going on here that I'm not aware of, so I will deal with the this at face value. Brian there is a need for your services in the industry, many guys don't have the knowledge, time, tools, etc. so you provide a service and a dam good one from what I have seen. You fill a needed service in the boating community, I will say that making light of what someone does for a living I disagree with. there are many guys out there that have a vast knowledge of Marine engines that chose to take a different career path, As for taking advise I would (if needed) take advice from You, Joe, or any other knowledgeable individual.

I will state again that I'm feel there is a piece to this puzzle that I'm missing so I don't really understand the dynamics surrounding all this.

So let's not make light of what we chose to do for a living! again with respect to all OSO members or non members

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I saw a bike repair reference tied to him in the past and ASS-UMED way to much..........now I see I gave him way to much credit.

There is a whole lot you are missing. The dynamic duo have attacked others and what they do for a living. As far as I'm concerned if you put yourself out there like that then so be it. It's like two spoiled brats. Don't get what they want and start crying someone say something around here that doesn't fit with what they say and look at it their way or no way. As far as I'm concerned neither one of them has a clue and if you decide to listen to what they have to say then don't cry when it doesn't go right.

That's when they were making fun of Rob aka Vintage Chromolly. They find him to be a rather convenient whipping post.

Ironic thought here... I fix people for a living, Its pretty well known how to make a big block make power and live...... people are much more difficult to fix, yet I am held t a much tighter standard than engine builders,

Head doctor?

They gave it hell, trying desperately to upset me because I dig old bmx bikes from the early 80's (thus the screen name)

I was targeted because I saw right through the circle jerk and didn't drink their koolaid. :lolhit::lolhit:

You are seriously a problem, joe helped with advice yes, joe was not my ONLY source and you obviously do not know anything about what really happened, joe is in fact smarter then you know it's just you don't like him, well people don't like you either... I mean come on you wanted 30,000.00 for a empty Baja hull because your magical hands were on it... LOL

GO AWAY brian you are doing no good whatsoever here you say other guys are negative... Lol look at your posts.....

I have qualified people here helping me again you have no idea.

As far as looking for a payday yea ok bud say what you want. You don't know me at all and I can care less what you of all people think....

I won't kiss your azz and tell you that you are boat work god because you are a cocky you know what....

I worked with people to find causes, it's handled people helped... Some people can't be ok with that they must bash me and others who ARE qualified...

I am done examining this mess I don't care what brian thinks at all...

Things are what they are, if guys don't like it too bad... Sucks they have to ruin this place.... (Brian)

And who are you again? I've never heard of "Orlandi Performance".... I've heard of sterling, chief, precision power, Crockett marine, boost power, Paul Phaff ,Richie zul, Ilmor, Brad smith and none of them use a engine designer, they are educated with marine engines and need no help......what makes you so qualified????

please explain yourself

Last I checked this was OSO, not hate on everyone site, you should be able to share things good and bad, I can't believe a "buisnessman" brian is such a hater to other boaters... I can't say what I really want because I will get banned I don't think I will post any projects or info anymore because I should just sit and let people like brian take everyone's money.... Some guys are do it yourself ers and I am qualified to do what I do, if you don't think so I don't care....I know me, and my Abilitys and also friends Abilitys... I have one person bashing me and it's brian... Hmmmm

Keep trying to sell a 30,000.00 Baja hull ....

Hey, Brian! why would you tell me to "LIGHTEN UP' I'm not getting into a **** contest with anyone. This is a tech thread, not a bash everyone, I pointed out some facts on the matter, not pointing a finger at anyone. I made an overall statement, not directing it towards anyone involved in this thread.

Holy phuk people!!!! Imagine if they pUT ATIVAN IN THE DRINKING WATER INSTEAD OF FLOURIDE!!! Seriously though, is there really a need for all this?? Tim is a nice guy, he has busted his azz tryin to get a good running boat and no doubt he will get it sorted out, and running good, he has put a lot of blood sweat and money into it and deserves it. Brian builds some wiicked stuff. I have been on that Baja in a poker run, been the first boat to the card stop and have seen the work he does.

We all like boats, fast boats, boats we can beat the hell out of. We have more in common than differences as far as boats go, so lets stop using the stuff that should bring us together as petty squabbles to tear us apart.